My Ryzen 9 9950X Died... on an ASRock Motherboard (talking head)

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I personally have an X870E Nova and 9800X3D sitting in the closet... waiting for some resolution to the issues folks are seeing. So far there's been radio silence from AMD and ASRock, with the social media consensus trending toward an avoidance of ASRock boards.
 
Yea this is 100% why I didn't go taichi and instead got a more expensive msi board. Oof... sorry man.
 
Have to admit I've always avoided Asrock. They just always looked flimsy. A lot of folks have had great luck with them though. Doesn't mean I'm happy to see this though, by any means. It sucks. Hope they work it out amicably for all involved.
 
Brian_B said:
Have to admit I've always avoided Asrock. They just always looked flimsy. A lot of folks have had great luck with them though. Doesn't mean I'm happy to see this though, by any means. It sucks. Hope they work it out amicably for all involved.
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Their cheaper boards are without a doubt... well, flimsy works. Used with care they can be problem free.

But generally above that you get more than you're paying for. ASRock regularly puts out boards in configurations or with features that other companies refuse to touch, or charge an extra US$500 to US$1000 for.

That's the case with their X870E Nova; it's really the best set up board available. MSI's Carbon is close but is even more expensive. Might be what I wind up with if I decide to disposition this Nova.

Really this is exacerbated by motherboard makers seemingly throwing all their resources into Intel's Z890 platform, only for Intel to fumble Arrow Lake's gaming performance making the whole lot generally undesirable by the primary consumer of higher-end boards. X870E very clearly didn't get much love; the chipset is not new of course, but there's still improvements to configuration and layout that could have been made (see why the Nova is popular).
 
Yea and arrow lake just got called out because their NVME Native channels on the 890 chipset motherboards are not full pcie5x4 bandwidth for the high speed NVME drives out there. That's gotta hurt them even more. For those that want that drive speed at least.
 
I use an ASRock X870E Taichi for my primary benchmark platform, 9800X3D, and of course I've tested all the Zen4/5 CPUs on it recently, along with 9950X3D. I've been through a ton of different BIOS's since I've been using the board and CPU since launch. I know it is cliche to say this, but no problems on my test sample size of one so far. 🤞
 
I wish there was some sort of conclusion Brent - for every report of a bricked CPU, people report being without problem too. Yet there are a lot of bricked CPU reports. It's also weird that this is being seen (or seems to be seen) at a far higher rate with ASRock boards. From what I understand, the BIOS all board makers use is based on AMDs AGESA releases and the part we see is really just the dressing. It's hard to imagine that ASRock is doing something drastically different, right?
 
One of my friends used an ASRock board for his X570 PC, and I think his current X870 PC is also using an ASRock board. He had an ASRock Radeon 6900 XT. Not sure what his current 7900 XTX is. But he's used at least a few ASRock products and hasn't had any issues so far (that I know of).
 
I have a AsRock Nova X870E as well, but replaced it with an MSI X870E Carbon board just because I didn't feel comfortable with the AsRock board even though I didn't have any issues.
 
I have a 9950x in a Taichi. Its is using default bios, and runs 100% load 24/7/365. No issues,

I also have 2 7950x (maybe 3) on Taichi boards, no issues. Personally, aside from the 13900k and the 14900k that even Intel admits are faulty (most of the time with a lot of different bios) most all other of the failures on the internet are due to overclocking the boards or overclocking the cips, and not the chips or boards themselves.
 
markfw said:
I have a 9950x in a Taichi. Its is using default bios, and runs 100% load 24/7/365. No issues,
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Interestingly, you are immune to this problem because most cases have been with light workloads so higher frequency than all core load frequency. It's something related to more volts required to hit higher boost frequency and sometimes, the volts get too high for too long and things are getting fried.
 
igor_kavinski said:
Interestingly, you are immune to this problem because most cases have been with light workloads so higher frequency than all core load frequency. It's something related to more volts required to hit higher boost frequency and sometimes, the volts get too high for too long and things are getting fried.
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That's... actually the Raptor Lake problem, where the higher voltage - which was absolutely safe for the cores, they were built for the abuse! - would instead fry the ring bus, which was on the same voltage plane as the cores. Made for a pretty painful troubleshooting and root-cause analysis for Intel, and made the 'fixes' somewhat awkward.
 
LazyGamer said:
That's... actually the Raptor Lake problem
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Yes but I've seen too many reports of people complaining that they were "just" watching a movie or browsing when their Ryzen died. Could be paid shills trying to discredit Ryzen reliability. Have to admit, can't rule that out.

I mean, this could be an easy stealth sabotage attempt by Intel. Maybe some expert (an Intel employee even), figured out how to trick ASROCK mobos to fry CPUs. They sign an NDA with people in return for considerable sum of money and then make them buy the thing, do what's needed to the mobo socket or pins and voila! Grilled Ryzen!
 
If anything, ASRock is the target. But we're still not at the stage where the instigator of the failures is known.
 
LazyGamer said:
If anything, ASRock is the target.
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Could also be an inside job. Maybe someone got promoted undeservedly and now in order to get that person fired and relieved of duty, his underlings are working in tandem to deliver crappy BIOS. I mean, ANYTHING is possible in this weird world. But I can't help thinking that AMD knows what the problem is and still won't say anything or do anything about it.

A hypothetical conversation:

Lisa Su: Why don't you just recall the mobos, load them up with the correct BIOS and default safe settings?
ASROCK CEO: Please, oh please no. We can't sustain a public debacle like that.
Lisa: So what are you suggesting then?
ASROCK CEO: Look, the failures are intermittent. Kind of like bad luck. The numbers aren't incredibly high. Let us handle the RMAs and we'll pay you your cost price for the replaced CPUs.
Lisa: (sigh) Oh ok. Guess it's your loss if you want to do it that way. Fine.
 
LazyGamer said:
I personally have an X870E Nova and 9800X3D sitting in the closet... waiting for some resolution to the issues folks are seeing.
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Did you start using it already? If yes, what BIOS version and have you noticed anything fishy in the voltages? Do you have your iGPU turned off? Manual RAM OC or EXPO? What type of cooling?

Mine is 9950X3D+ASROCK B850 Pro RS (stock BIOS). I've done some nasty stuff to it, the last of which was putting it through some crazy static voltage that caused instant thermal shutdown. It was working the last time. Been tinkering with other stuff since.
 
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