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I understand, but my point was performance is going to be a good bit higher than a 10600k... why do people expect to pay so much less? With the 3600x it didn't always keep up, so it was hard to justify that it should cost more... if it can perform like a 10700k and come in $50 cheaper than it...

Talk is cheap :). Here's to hoping though.

Well, the method at which they were doing lossless compression made it better at the time. They had a higher average compression ratio which meant less bandwidth was required to get the exact same (it's lossless, so results are 100% identical) results. Fast forward a few years.... nvidia now...

Those estimates just look high... a decent 120mm case fan pulls < 2w at full power... how in the world did he end up with 15w for fans? And what is "other power"? It feels more like a slide that started with 320w and then divided the numbers to make them add up, more than a slide that started...

Yeah, reminds me of the list they posted when they came out with it, over half of which never implemented. Well, developers didn't/don't have a huge reason to support stuff that isn't mainstream... that's a lot of duplicated effort to add RT/DLSS to a game that is meant to run on a switch, ps4...

Yeah, NVIDIA and AMD both have driver issues, but AMD seems to have a few more, and they tend to just stick around much to long for a known issue. Nvidia has some long time stuff as well, but the % of people it affects is much smaller, the bigger issues get corrected quickly. That said, not...

I mean... The 10700k is closer in performance to the 5600x.. so maybe that's be more fair to compare price wise? $349 without iGPU... And less than 1/2 the power draw, almost 1/3 (88w compared to 229w). Nobody complained that the 10700k was only 20% faster than the 10600k and wanted...

Yes, in general the 5600x is probably more closely compared to the 10700k performance wise (even though price wise it's closer to the 10600k). Makes sense it'll beat the 10600k. Will see if Intel drops prices early November, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 10700k ends up closer to $300 and...

You are paying for it, you just don't realize it. All your data that's collected and advertisements, etc. You are the payout. It's "free" but they are making money from it. If they were a non profit and weren't raking in billions, maybe I'd accept your argument. I do agree though, it does...

Maybe they'll be forced to sell Chrome to Microsoft to run? :)

I used mine for a while for a caching dns server that also blocked ads based on dns, so they wouldn't display on any computer on my network,but nowmy caching DNS/dhcp runs on my real server. I currently have one setup running octo pi so I can remote 3d print from my network. I've found a few...

Either I'm not the only one that used cardboard to quantify this launch or you saw my post on the [H]. Either way, I think it's very fitting :). The only company to release numbers has gotten 7% of their demand satisfied so far.... NVIDIA saying it's a demand issue... are you saying they only...

Nah, something that takes your 3d view (since you have 2 eyes with space in between your brain is able to turn it into 3d)... if you took 2 views and transformed it into a flat 2d space :). Kind of like unprojecting 3d!!! Oh man would those be fun with zero depth perception.

This is true, but your IOPS are still much higher, so random IO can sustain higher read/write speeds. Just depends on your work loads and stuff. Obviously if you have a choice not sharing bandwidth is better, but if you are limited it still works well. Heck, just look at how much sharing there...

When I try to stress my 3700x CPU I only see like 4180MHz... so I guess 4250 seems decent. I get around 3980 sustained all core. So not much difference for me between my all core and single core boosts. I can probably screw around a bit and get a little better here or there, but it's good...

Some people like to walk up and stick it in... I like to stick it in, then walk up. ps. I'm excited to see you guys get some of these cards in hand for some testing!

If you tell me how it mounts to the MB and what kind of space constraints (like does it need to be kept really short or sideways mount, or up a bit higher to clear motherboard or have a long tunnel to sit outside a case) I'll go with my usual fee of shipping costs... Really the measurements...

It says 1 user tracking... So my guess is 1 ;)

I have dimensions for a normal 120mm fan (actually designed and am running a 120mm grill for a PSU that I printed), but I don't have dimensions for the card or know how much space you have in front of it. I can design something for you if your not afraid of using a ruler and/or calipers ;). I...

I have a 3d printer, no clue how much shipping and stuff would be. What were you looking at getting it printed in as I've only really played with PLA to this point. Keep in mind, 3d printers don't all act exactly the same (aka, dimensional accuracy varies slightly) so without something to test...