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It's relative performance, sad you just can't admit your theory is wrong. Face it a 265K and 5070Ti games better than a 9800X3D and a weaker 5070 GPU, and the 265K kicks the 9800X3D to the curb outside of gaming.

Relative performance at 1080P (gaming) 5070Ti = 19% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 1440p (gaming) 5070Ti = 23% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 4K (gaming) 5070Ti = 28% faster than 5070 So if what you are saying is correct, going with a 265K would mean that it be 19%...

Yeah look at the charts all the data taken from there.....guess you need it spoon fed like a baby????

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-founders-edition/35.html

Data taken from techpowerup Relative performance at 1080P (gaming) 5070Ti = 19% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 1440p (gaming) 5070Ti = 23% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 4K (gaming) 5070Ti = 28% faster than 5070 So if what you are saying is correct, going with a 265K...

Did not spend 55 minutes.......and nothing was turned on it's face, so now are you also saying that there is the same performance difference between a 5070 and 5070ti vs a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super?

yes, only a complete moron would recommend spending more money to pair an inferior GPU with a better CPU, vs getting a 265K and 5070Ti, again you are giving up ZERO performance going with a 265K and superior GPU, what's so ****ing hard to understand about that

265K 5070Ti CS2 1440P Very high settings 7800X3D RTX 5070 1440P Very high settings Seems to me the 265K with a better GPU is performing better? No eagerly waiting for your excuse

Does this hurt your feelings? Or is it not fair because it's a 7800X3D? Currently the 7800X3D is $500 9800X3D is $600 265K is $320 Considering there is less of a performance difference between a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super vs a 5070Ti and 5070, should still go with AMD right?

Well I'd say you are saying a bunch of **** without being able to back it up, thanks for proving my point all along. Telling people to spend more money than necessary because you can't prove that spending an extra 350$ gives 350$ in tangible performance increases. Next thing you will probably...

So you are saying there is no difference in gaming performance between a 5070 and 5070ti, 20-30 sometimes more FPS using a 5070ti vs a 5070, but the 265K will be 20-30fps slower in games effectively making it a worse experience than a 9800X3D and 5070? A 265K and 5070Ti is NOT a downgrade vs a...

Well apparently some people are suggesting that. Not to mention the 265K system with the superior GPU will be better at everything else including gaming and last much longer without having to buy another CPU later to upgrade, making the AL dead platform argument not much of an agrument. So...

So I'll type like a boomer. PROVE TO ME THAT A 5070 AND 9800X3D IS A SUPERIOR GAMING EXPERIENCE VS A 265K AND 5070TI. Only a die hard AMD fanatic would suggest or go to such lengths to try and prove that a much weaker GPU is better with a 9800X3D vs a 265K and a 5070Ti. Oh and the 265K 5070Ti...

I see you are still avoiding the question I keep asking all along........

That's relevant how? You are saying that a 265K with a much superior graphics card will still perform WORSE in gaming than a 9800X3D with an inferior graphics card. Sorry AMD unboxed didn't test with different GPU's so try harder, and maybe cope a bit harder too

i'd love to see examples of this...... Where is all the huge frame time spikes? Seems the 265K and 5070ti has lower frame times?

Proof of "choopy" frame rates? First i'm hearing of that. I suggest you look at memory reviews on techpowerup, there is not a large gap in performance with ram speed, unless you are comparing the lowest Jedec speed to something 8000+ MT So a non x3d...

Wait to buy ram so you can "draw out the performance of the video card"? Ram makes that much difference at resolutions that a "high end" video card runs games at? https://www.techpowerup.com/review/colorful-igame-shadow-ii-ddr5-6000-32-gb-cl28/10.html That testing would appear that at high...

So what's the better deal? You mean to tell me that the AMD system will be better for gaming in all metrics vs the intel one?

It's funny you mention that, because I'm fairly certain it was YOU that mocked me for suggesting someone go with a 265K and a higher end GPU with the money saved vs spending much more on a 9800X3D, but now it's ok to do something similar because of ram prices? You can still go up a tier in GPU...