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Still sidestepping my question which you haven't proved yet. A 265K has worse gaming performance than a 9800X3D even when it has a far superior GPU......that test says nothing since it's all testing with the same GPU, so once again, the onus is on you to prove a 265K gets worse performance than...

And where are your numbers?

Nope, even had a hole cut in the side of my full tower case for an 80mm fan right above the heatsink, case sat on the floor under my desk. The noise wasn't that noticeable with it tucked under there. It sure was a different era back then, high rpm fans were pretty much the norm for serious...

The numbers were posted in post 81 https://forums.thefpsreview.com/threads/35-off-259-99-intel-core-ultra-7-desktop-processor-265k-20-cores-8-p-cores-12-e-cores-up-to-5-5-ghz.18807/page-5#post-99631

I have quite fond memories of the Socket A days. Were they influential cpu's maybe not to most but it sure woke into up to the race to 1ghz. Then intel tried a 1.13ghz P3 and it was basically overclocked and unstable, good times. Managed to pick up a Duron 650 that was factory unlocked...

Who said anything about being offended? Still waiting on the clarification that a 265K loses more performance vs a 9800X3D even when running a higher end GPU, funny how no one wants to explain how that happens when the numbers don't support that at all.

I'm not changing anything....you really avoid actually making statements that would prove yourself wrong.

So you are saying arrow lake cpu's give unplayable frame rates regardless of GPU used? And people should spend 350$ more when they don't have to because if they don't the games they play will be unplayable ?

Fact, a 5070 can not play some games at playable levels at 1440p and 4k, fact a 5070Ti can play games at playable levels vs a 5070....and the CPU doesn't matter. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Using your logic, any arrow lake cpu is bad for gaming, yet when I tested my 225 with a...

Yes i am because a difference of a few fps i n1% lows is not going to be noticeable, but what is noticeable is how much lower the fps is with a 5070 vs a 5070ti

It's relative performance, sad you just can't admit your theory is wrong. Face it a 265K and 5070Ti games better than a 9800X3D and a weaker 5070 GPU, and the 265K kicks the 9800X3D to the curb outside of gaming.

Relative performance at 1080P (gaming) 5070Ti = 19% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 1440p (gaming) 5070Ti = 23% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 4K (gaming) 5070Ti = 28% faster than 5070 So if what you are saying is correct, going with a 265K would mean that it be 19%...

Yeah look at the charts all the data taken from there.....guess you need it spoon fed like a baby????

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-founders-edition/35.html

Data taken from techpowerup Relative performance at 1080P (gaming) 5070Ti = 19% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 1440p (gaming) 5070Ti = 23% faster than 5070 Relative performance at 4K (gaming) 5070Ti = 28% faster than 5070 So if what you are saying is correct, going with a 265K...

Did not spend 55 minutes.......and nothing was turned on it's face, so now are you also saying that there is the same performance difference between a 5070 and 5070ti vs a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super?

yes, only a complete moron would recommend spending more money to pair an inferior GPU with a better CPU, vs getting a 265K and 5070Ti, again you are giving up ZERO performance going with a 265K and superior GPU, what's so ****ing hard to understand about that

265K 5070Ti CS2 1440P Very high settings 7800X3D RTX 5070 1440P Very high settings Seems to me the 265K with a better GPU is performing better? No eagerly waiting for your excuse

Does this hurt your feelings? Or is it not fair because it's a 7800X3D? Currently the 7800X3D is $500 9800X3D is $600 265K is $320 Considering there is less of a performance difference between a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super vs a 5070Ti and 5070, should still go with AMD right?

Well I'd say you are saying a bunch of **** without being able to back it up, thanks for proving my point all along. Telling people to spend more money than necessary because you can't prove that spending an extra 350$ gives 350$ in tangible performance increases. Next thing you will probably...