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Don't think for one second that AMD won't jump into the AI bandwagon. If nvidia bails on the consumer market, you can be sure AMD will follow.

Actually, full ray tracing is more taxing than path tracing. thing is that only a handful of effects are used for raytracing, mainly reflections, global illumination, shadows, etc. hence the lower performance hit.

why all the hoopla on a CPU that's not worth buying? It's only a little bit faster than the 9800X3d, but is more expensive, draws more power and generates more heat. I don't see any scenario where getting a 9850X3D over a 9800X3d makes sense.

I was hoping for Ray Tracing to be a non-issue by now. As in cards having enough horsepower that PathTracing would be the norm, not the alternative. Now I don't think it will ever come, I think RT will be replaced with realtime AI rendering.

Multiple problems with their manufacturing process + minimal performance increase + massive power draw and heat output= dropped ball.

Yeah, just like 1080p wasn't ever to be a market... :rolleyes: ;) 4K is quickly becoming the new standard if only because of consoles. There are lots of 4k gaming capable TVs with high refresh rates that you can use for pc gaming. I wouldn't touch a 1440p monitor if my life depended on it.

The thing with intel is that they dropped the ball too many times, till AMD met and then surpassed them. I don't see nvidia making the same mistake.

Unless you want raytracing and DLSS, there's little reason to get a 5080.

I think you can force framegen with AMD even in unsupported games, not that it looks good. I don't think you can bypass game developer support and do it via drivers, as you need motion vectors and other data for it to look reasonably good.

The thing is that Frame gen works best when you already have high fps (preferably over 90 fps), adding frames under say 40fps introduces terrible lag, visible artifacts and jerkiness. I don't see dynamic frame gen helping with that. I really haven't read much about it, so I may be wrong.

I recall watching a youtube video of that a while ago comparing FSR vs DLSS2, thing is streaming compression kills subtle differences and sometimes exacerbates more obvious ones.

AMD still has a long way to go with FSR, regarding IQ. When FSR came out, it went vs DLSS2, arguably, DLSS2 performance looked better than FSR1 quality mode. Fast forward to Redstone, vs DLSS4.1 the consensus is again that DLSS4.1 performance mode looks as good or better than FSR4 quality. I...

Everything looks great on paper, let's see what actual products can do. For instance, on paper the RTX5090 is twice the RTX5080, in reality, it's nowhere near twice as fast.

you know there are several NUCs with high end CPUs and discrete video cards. They are expensive of course.

Just a few years ago nvidia wasn't even in the top 5 of TSMC customers and was behind AMD. Today it's #2 (but still far from apple) and AFAIK are also going intel foundries.

Both AMD and nvidia (and intel for that matter) have thousands of patents that never come to anything. like for example 3dfx patents which only served for nvidia to stop its legal battle with 3dfx but never used them on any of their cards.

apple is the one that monopolizes pretty much every process node they use on TSMC, plus it's also reportedly going to use intel 18A process and also sources from Global Foundries for some of its NON-CPU needs.

AFAIK nvidia doesn't use global foundries at all. Heck I don't think they have 5nm manufacturing process yet.

I pity intel and Steam, this seems like the worst time to release new products. No way the SteamBox is now releasing at $700 or less.

If they deny it then it must be true ;) :LOL: :LOL::rolleyes: