35% off @ $259.99 Intel Core Ultra 7 Desktop Processor 265K - 20 cores (8 P-cores + 12 E-cores) up to 5.5 GHz

Yeah, I tend to stick to the pattern I noticed around 10+ years ago where I often start seeing some interesting sales at the beginning of summer. It's a weird thing nobody really talks about but I've gotten some great deals between May-July.
 
My hypothesis is it is due to students getting out for summer break. Very few year round schools in the U.S.? Free time = a lot more gaming. Deals I got aren't bad, but certainly not something people used to get trampled over. :p
 
Oh so it's no longer a good deal to buy anything now because of ram prices? So that makes buying AMD bad as well because they cost even more?

it's funny how I highlighted that you can buy an arrow lake system CPU/MB/Ram for almost the same price as an AMD CPU/Mb but without ram, but it's still a bad time to buy things?
 
Tyler-98-W68 said:
Oh so it's no longer a good deal to buy anything now because of ram prices? So that makes buying AMD bad as well because they cost even more?

it's funny how I highlighted that you can buy an arrow lake system CPU/MB/Ram for almost the same price as an AMD CPU/Mb but without ram, but it's still a bad time to buy things?
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If it walks like a gorilla... and talks like a gorilla...

It's not about Intel or AMD... It's just saying that with the amount you are over paying on ram right now you could go up a tier in video card and keep the same ram once prices drop back down.

I wouldn't have ANYONE build a PC right now on any platform unless it was an actual need.
 
It's not about Intel or AMD... It's just saying that with the amount you are over paying on ram right now you could go up a tier in video card and keep the same ram once prices drop back down.
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It's funny you mention that, because I'm fairly certain it was YOU that mocked me for suggesting someone go with a 265K and a higher end GPU with the money saved vs spending much more on a 9800X3D, but now it's ok to do something similar because of ram prices? You can still go up a tier in GPU level by going with (by example) a 265K which is almost $300 cheaper than a 9800X3D
 
Tyler-98-W68 said:
It's funny you mention that, because I'm fairly certain it was YOU that mocked me for suggesting someone go with a 265K and a higher end GPU with the money saved vs spending much more on a 9800X3D, but now it's ok to do something similar because of ram prices? You can still go up a tier in GPU level by going with (by example) a 265K which is almost $300 cheaper than a 9800X3D
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And if you're building a 9800x3d and looking at a 5070ti OR a 5080 video card I would say stick with the higher end CPU and spend the money, but wait on ram. Why... because you want to draw out the performance of the video card.

We're talking a 400 dollar price difference on a DDR5 kit of decent performance from beginning of the year to now... some cases more like 600.

There is reasoning to my thoughts. NOW if you have decided you're getting a 5060 or 5070 type tier video card, gaming at 1080 and you want to save money to afford more ram I would say the Intel CPU is probably going to be fine.

But after experiencing the last gen of AMD sockets I would still recommend an AMD like a 7800x3d, and do your build. Then when the next set comes out look to upgrade the CPU. Because I have confidence it will work.

It all depends on what your goal is for the device and what you are looking to do with it.

You want to run spreadsheets and all that jazz better than anything. Get an Intel CPU. You'll be solid and nobody will blink or ask. Could an AMD do it better? Maybe... I honestly don't know. For pro stuff I'm looking at server hardware. I just use whatever laptop the company says I can get.

Intel is becoming the IBM of consumer compute. Maybe that's their power play? I don't know.

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So what's the better deal?

You mean to tell me that the AMD system will be better for gaming in all metrics vs the intel one?
 
Wait to buy ram so you can "draw out the performance of the video card"? Ram makes that much difference at resolutions that a "high end" video card runs games at?

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That testing would appear that at high resolutions super fast ram doesn't make much of a difference.
 
Tyler-98-W68 said:
You mean to tell me that the AMD system will be better for gaming in all metrics vs the intel one?
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Yes. Especially Intel Arrow Lake. Choppy framerates versus smooth ones, one GPU bin isn't going to cover that.

Tyler-98-W68 said:
That testing would appear that at high resolutions super fast ram doesn't make much of a difference.
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It won't on an X3D SKU - but anything else AMD or Intel will be more sensitive.
 
LazyGamer said:
Yes. Especially Intel Arrow Lake. Choppy framerates versus smooth ones, one GPU bin isn't going to cover that.


It won't on an X3D SKU - but anything else AMD or Intel will be more sensitive.
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Proof of "choopy" frame rates? First i'm hearing of that.

I suggest you look at memory reviews on techpowerup, there is not a large gap in performance with ram speed, unless you are comparing the lowest Jedec speed to something 8000+ MT

So a non x3d.....
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Wow huge difference 9fps between 4800 vs the fastest tested ram......and that was in 1 game. 5fps and 2 and 1 fps in other games......

So, to be clear, you are saying that a 9800X3D with RTX 5070 will give a better gaming experience than a 265K with a RTX 5070Ti?

What have you been smoking today?
 
Tyler-98-W68 said:
Proof of "choopy" frame rates? First i'm hearing of that.
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Have you never heard of frametimes? Did you gloss over that detail in this thread?

Tyler-98-W68 said:
So, to be clear, you are saying that a 9800X3D with RTX 5070 will give a better gaming experience than a 265K with a RTX 5070Ti?
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Yes. Better gaming experience. The Intel / 5070Ti might produce higher average framerates, but frametimes will be all over the place.
 
LazyGamer said:
Have you never heard of frametimes? Did you gloss over that detail in this thread?


Yes. Better gaming experience. The Intel / 5070Ti might produce higher average framerates, but frametimes will be all over the place.
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i'd love to see examples of this......


Where is all the huge frame time spikes?



Seems the 265K and 5070ti has lower frame times?
 
That's relevant how?

You are saying that a 265K with a much superior graphics card will still perform WORSE in gaming than a 9800X3D with an inferior graphics card.

Sorry AMD unboxed didn't test with different GPU's so try harder, and maybe cope a bit harder too
 
Tyler-98-W68 said:
I see you are still avoiding the question I keep asking all along........
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You're not asking questions. You're making false statements and feigning ignorance for some reason. Some folks are convinced that you're an Intel shill; I'm convinced you're just a troll.
 
LazyGamer said:
Yes. Especially Intel Arrow Lake. Choppy framerates versus smooth ones, one GPU bin isn't going to cover that.


It won't on an X3D SKU - but anything else AMD or Intel will be more sensitive.
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So I'll type like a boomer. PROVE TO ME THAT A 5070 AND 9800X3D IS A SUPERIOR GAMING EXPERIENCE VS A 265K AND 5070TI.

Only a die hard AMD fanatic would suggest or go to such lengths to try and prove that a much weaker GPU is better with a 9800X3D vs a 265K and a 5070Ti.

Oh and the 265K 5070Ti is much cheaper and excels at more than just gaming, better as an all around computer. But you seem to think otherwise. You keep side stepping around the question and can't find anything to prove you case.

You said frame times.....so I posted the exact setups i'm discussing and when the frame time argument didn't work out you resorted to posting an totally irrelevant AMD unboxed video.

So again. I posted 2 configs.....almost the same price but the intel system being slightly cheaper with a much better GPU, yet the AMD system is the better deal? Ok....
 
I personally wouldn't buy a slower GPU with a faster CPU unless there are plenty of things I'm looking to do with the faster CPU that don't involve gaming. Some people will prefer having a faster CPU as a better "foundation" for a long term system.

As for deciding between Arrow Lake and Zen 5, well, get the Arrow Lake if you like a more challenging system to tune or your workload of choice runs much better on it. Zen 5 if you want something that just works without needing to spend hours tuning. And obviously, if you want to avoid E-cores.
 
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