Intel Core Ultra 9 285K & Ultra 5 245K CPU Review

[DrMrLordX]

512MB eDRAM would've had much better latencies AND bandwidth than at least 80% of worldwide DDR5 RAM sales. They just needed to iterate on the technology with incremental generational refinements.

Nobody knows what the bandwidth or latency would be like on a modern L4 cache implementation. Also you do not want to be on the hook for implementing eDRAM on some/all of your consumer CPUs when the memory manufacturers are busy focusing on HBM production for some company that is not you.

edit: I'm assuming eDRAM dice would be coming from RAM manufacturers, but if Intel could fab it themselves on one of their own processes then maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

 

[igor_kavinski]

but if Intel could fab it themselves on one of their own processes then maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

I would expect them to do that because they hate paying for stuff. Lunar Lake was cancelled for this very reason.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Intel Arrow Lake S may not be the most powerful gaming CPU, but it does have one key advantage

Intel has taken a reputation beating in the last few generations, but there's one undervalued advantage to the Arrow Lake 200S family: stability.

www.xda-developers.com

A puff piece to drum up some interest for Arrow Lake Refresh.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

"Hey guyz! 7200MT/s is officially supported!"

Shoppers response - "Not by our wallets!"

 

[DrMrLordX]

"Hey guyz! 7200MT/s is officially supported!"

Shoppers response - "Not by our wallets!"

Oof yeah, bad time to be buying parts to build a system.

 

[igor_kavinski]

290K Plus vs. 285K (both @8000 MT/s): https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/16061603?baseline=15921371

290K Plus only looks good if it is untuned in the above result while the 285K it is being compared to is using at least 200S Boost.

This seems like a useless refresh so far, at least from this result.

 

[LazyGamer]

This seems like a useless refresh so far, at least from this result.

I see Geekbench as more of a , "they didn't break it" test.

We don't really need more raw performance - we need reduced latency so that Intel can (at least) surpass Raptor Lake in gaming performance. Would be even better if it could do that without exotic memory configurations.