New 12V-2×6 Device Featuring Load Balancing Technology Could Be the Cure-All for 16-Pin Connector Meltdowns

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First round
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First AMD Radeon RX 7000 Graphics Cards with 12V-2x6 Power Connector Revealed as ASRock Announces Its Radeon RX 7900 WS Series

The first AMD Radeon RX 7900 series graphics cards to feature the 12V-2x6 power connector are now on the horizon.
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2nd roung had a failure
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12V-2x6 claims first Radeon GPU victim but under curious circumstances | Club386

One Reddit user claims their Radeon RX 9070 XT system has fallen afoul of 12V-2x6, but there's clearly more at play here.
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LazyGamer said:
They're definitely on my good-guys list...
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I've been using them for a long time now. Since about 2015. I mean, no for profit company is your friend, but still I get the sense they are among the few that are really just trying to make good products and are willing to call out those who don't.

They are the ones who cued me into that Noctua was intentionally not meeting the PWM spec on their Industrial fans back in 2019 when I was having problems with my last water cooling build.

As far as water cooling goes my "good guys list" is straIght up and down German for some reason
- Watercool
- Aquacomputer
- Alphacool

Probably in that order, though the top two are pretty close.
 
Denpepe said:
but they need to get everyone at pci-sig to agree on the new standard.
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That would be the first time nVidia waited and didn’t push a proprietary standard…
 
Zarathustra said:
Look, I understand where you are coming from, but if this cheap little device can prevent a meltdown of a multi-thousand dollar build, then it is silly not to.
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There is no way back after it is normalized. $80 is not exactly cheap either. We can't expect things to get any better if we just go along with every anti-consumer BS.
Zarathustra said:
Nvidia is unlikely to make any changes to the power connector either way. They have been completely intransigent on this issue.
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Not with that attitude. Could a company get away with selling any household appliance that may melt down unless you separately buy a special overpriced power distributor for it?
Zarathustra said:
And honestly, even withholding sales are unlikely do make a difference. They consider themselves to be doing us a favor by even letting us buy anything at all, because they could make much more money by using the consumer silicon allotment for AI chips and just discontinuing consumer GPU's all together,
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AI bubble will go poop, and nVidia will be crawling back on its knees to gamers. Skipping a few generations is a price I'm willing to pay.
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So we are on our own, and we have to do the best we can to protect ourselves.
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The best we can do to protect ourselves is not buying products with known design faults. Buying a 5090 is not a necessity, it is a luxury. It's not like you have to give up completely on gaming, just buy something that will definitely not melt, like a 5080, or better yet go to a competitor.

And if nvidia decides to completely abandon the consumer market: Good riddance. That's probably the best thing that could happen. Someone who can't compete with nvidia in the AI market would fill in the gap, and as an added bonus we'd also be rid of nvidia's proprietary nonsense too, like DLSS, framegen, etc.
 
Obviously the pci ssc or what have you, as a group can certainly cave to a bigger players, not exactly a weird thing by itself, unexpected or even un fair, it just seems so dumb they did so for such a stupid thing as an effing plug, perhaps it was the opposite, instead it requiring any sort of rank pulling by nvidia, nvidia just produced this turd, and no one even looked at it, because, how can anyone screw a plug after over 100years of electricity.
 
MadMummy76 said:
And if nvidia decides to completely abandon the consumer market: Good riddance. That's probably the best thing that could happen. Someone who can't compete with nvidia in the AI market would fill in the gap, and as an added bonus we'd also be rid of nvidia's proprietary nonsense too, like DLSS, framegen, etc.
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Let the hate flow through you!
 
MadMummy76 said:
I don't say this out of hate for nvidia, but for the love of gaming, and everything nvidia has done since the 2xxx series was a net negative for gaming.
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I have to admit when thinking of it from an appliance standpoint you are totally right. What other product would a fire risk be acceptable? if this were a vehicle (and lets face it it's dang near cheap vehicle pricing) this kind of risk would be triggering a recall.
 
Grimlakin said:
I have to admit when thinking of it from an appliance standpoint you are totally right. What other product would a fire risk be acceptable? if this were a vehicle (and lets face it it's dang near cheap vehicle pricing) this kind of risk would be triggering a recall.
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Well, I did bring up the Pinto for that reason, where Ford decided it will be cheaper to deal with a few fire related lawsuits, than doing a recall and fixing the dangerous fuel system. But they ended up paying the price. I think nvidia will get away with it unless an actually bad fire happens provably caused by this. Which I'm absolutely not wishing for, but the risk is there.
 
MadMummy76 said:
I don't say this out of hate for nvidia, but for the love of gaming, and everything nvidia has done since the 2xxx series was a net negative for gaming.
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They push a new tech, they put the hardware out there... then AMD has to respond with an 'open' alternative because if it wasn't open, no one would use it.

It's been going on longer than the release of the 2xxx series :cool:
 
Denpepe said:
This is a tech than Nvidia bought but was not developped by them initially but by a 3rd party for use on dedicated hardware.
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Oh I agree, but they also integrated PhysX into their GPUs and locked it down. It's also perhaps the most egregious example given that PhysX ran perfectly on AMD GPUs at the time too, whereas Nvidia's G-Sync and DLSS technologies actually require custom hardware to maintain their edge.
 
LazyGamer said:
Oh I agree, but they also integrated PhysX into their GPUs and locked it down. It's also perhaps the most egregious example given that PhysX ran perfectly on AMD GPUs at the time too, whereas Nvidia's G-Sync and DLSS technologies actually require custom hardware to maintain their edge.
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They didn't lock it down they killed physx. If you try to run a physx game on a modern nvidia gpu it won't work or only in software mode running like crap.

But that's neither here nor there, on one hand they did a bad, but if they didn't buy physx we might be needing two pieces of expensive HW in or computers a graphics card and a physics card.
 
MadMummy76 said:
They didn't lock it down they killed physx. If you try to run a physx game on a modern nvidia gpu it won't work or only in software mode running like crap.
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I mean eventually sure but the question was what was before DLSS and such and that was answered correctly.
 
MadMummy76 said:
The best we can do to protect ourselves is not buying products with known design faults. Buying a 5090 is not a necessity, it is a luxury. It's not like you have to give up completely on gaming, just buy something that will definitely not melt, like a 5080, or better yet go to a competitor.
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Absolutely. Keep in mind this also pertains to 9070XTs that have 12v2x6 connectors. But it mostly relates to the cards at most risk for failure, which are 5090s and 4090TI/4090s.

MadMummy76 said:
And if nvidia decides to completely abandon the consumer market: Good riddance. That's probably the best thing that could happen. Someone who can't compete with nvidia in the AI market would fill in the gap, and as an added bonus we'd also be rid of nvidia's proprietary nonsense too, like DLSS, framegen, etc.
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It would be nice to go back to RT being optional.
 
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