A Terminator Reboot Is in Early Discussion, according to James Cameron

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The last Terminator film didn't do too well at the box office, but the franchise may—as Arnold Schwarzenegger's iconic T-800 likes to say—"be back" again, according to director James Cameron, who recently sat down with the SmartLess crew for a podcast dated December 19 and shared some news regarding the property, which might be rebooted yet again following previous attempts that include 2015's Terminator Genisys, starring Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese and Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor.

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Yeah, saying the last one didn't do too well is an understatement. They've pretty much all tanked since the 2nd. This and Aliens are two franchises I'd like to see retired but I admit I'm open-minded to a space marine AVP movie like the comics. I've heard good things about the Sarah Connor chronicles but never got around to watching it.
 
I had huge hopes after the first two.
Having huge hopes is a problem on itself. Honestly either movie ( 1 or 2) on its own were movies hard to beat . The fact that T2 was such an iconic movie, makes that bar so effin high, but even then, we got no bueno at all after the first two, just no good.
They need to be left alone.
 
Please let it die. But just like sharks when blood hits the water, if Hollywood thinks there is $$$ to be made, it probably will happen.

I would rather see a colonial marines reboot/spinoff (you can even leave the main xenomorphs/aliens out of it if you want, or introduce different aliens).

Or you know, Jim, maybe do something else? Sci Fi doesn't have to be endless reboots and sequels (one assumes).
 
Burticus said:
Or you know, Jim, maybe do something else? Sci Fi doesn't have to be endless reboots and sequels (one assumes).
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That is a good point. There is a lot of Sci-Fi out there, and I started off by writing that only the big franchises were still going (Star Wars this or Star Trek that).. but then I got to thinking -- well, that's exactly what you are talking about - only the big franchises get attention.

Not all of this Sci-Fi is good, but there's a good bit of it out there.

A few examples, just off the top of my head:

Westworld
Raised by Wolves
Avenue 5
His Dark Materials
The Expanse
BSG (nothing here for a while now, but it was huge when it was out)

There is a ton more out there. I guess you could say Avatar was his attempt to bring a new SciFi IP around, so it's not that Cameron is stuck on doing endless reboots... but if Avatar 2 doesn't make out spectacularly, he may be looking for something safe to bring the money back in and regain the trust of the investers.
 
Meh.

I feel like Terminator 2 hit the high point and that it should have ended there. Would have been better if they had quit while they were ahead.

I tried watching 2003's Rise of the Machines and the Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series, and I thought they were both awful. I turned the film off probably less than halfway through. The TV series, I don't think I got throuhg more than one or two episodes. I can't remember anymore.

When I think about the Terminator franchise I really think of it in terms of two movies, Terminator (1984) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) and that's it.

At this point, Schwarzenegger is too old to reprise the role, and without him, it just won't be the same.

I'd suggest creating something new, instead of trying to cash in on and further dilute older franchises.
 
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There is a ton more out there. I guess you could say Avatar was his attempt to bring a new SciFi IP around, so it's not that Cameron is stuck on doing endless reboots... but if Avatar 2 doesn't make out spectacularly, he may be looking for something safe to bring the money back in and regain the trust of the investers.
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I thought the first installment of "Space Pocahontas with Blue People" was bad enough. I can't believe someone greenlit a sequel...
 
Uvilla said:
I had huge hopes after the first two.
Having huge hopes is a problem on itself. Honestly either movie ( 1 or 2) on its own were movies hard to beat . The fact that T2 was such an iconic movie, makes that bar so effin high, but even then, we got no bueno at all after the first two, just no good.
They need to be left alone.
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As they say, the key to happiness is having low expectations.

This is why there can never be a Half-Life 3
 
As far as I'm concerned the Terminator franchise ended with the original movie. Other than Arnold going from bad guy to good guy and a few good action scenes, Terminator 2 didn't do much for me. It had a small fraction of the suspense of the original which is what made that movie great and replaced it with a lot of action which didn't interest me as much.

I never re-watch T2 and I've never watched any of the sequels more than once. They were almost completely forgettable. The Sarah Connor Chronicles in some ways were even more farfetched than some of the bad movies but they did a good job with the series itself. I always thought of it as its own universe and enjoyed it for what it was. It was also different in how it didn't focus on John Connor which was quite refreshing.

A reboot doesn't need to be done. They've already tried it with some of the later movies and it doesn't work. If they try it yet again it will fail yet again. The suspense and mystery of the original movie gave it the power and legacy that the franchise has. There is no way that mystery can be brought back and any additional movies will suffer from the same problem of the current sequels. They make the premise about time travel and changing the past and each movie makes the story less coherent and makes each previous movie mean little or nothing.
 
SmokeRngs said:
As far as I'm concerned the Terminator franchise ended with the original movie. Other than Arnold going from bad guy to good guy and a few good action scenes, Terminator 2 didn't do much for me. It had a small fraction of the suspense of the original which is what made that movie great and replaced it with a lot of action which didn't interest me as much.

I never re-watch T2 and I've never watched any of the sequels more than once. They were almost completely forgettable. The Sarah Connor Chronicles in some ways were even more farfetched than some of the bad movies but they did a good job with the series itself. I always thought of it as its own universe and enjoyed it for what it was. It was also different in how it didn't focus on John Connor which was quite refreshing.

A reboot doesn't need to be done. They've already tried it with some of the later movies and it doesn't work. If they try it yet again it will fail yet again. The suspense and mystery of the original movie gave it the power and legacy that the franchise has. There is no way that mystery can be brought back and any additional movies will suffer from the same problem of the current sequels. They make the premise about time travel and changing the past and each movie makes the story less coherent and makes each previous movie mean little or nothing.
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If you are into sci-fi horror style films, the first one definitely hit the spot better than the second. It had more of the feel of the first Alien film. There is this unstoppable thing that is trying to kill you.

I still think the second was great, but in a different way. Instead of sci-fi horror it was a classic straight up action film, and it really captured the zeitgeist of the late 80's/early 90's when it was filmed and released, so I think it has merit and though I'm not generally the type of person who watches any film more than once, this is one of those select few I'd watch again. I think I saw it in theaters back when it came out, then on VHS at various friend's houses. At this point I don't think I e seen it since the late 90's, but I'd totally rewatch it.
 
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