AMD Explains Absence of Radeon RX 9000 Series and RDNA 4 at CES 2025 Press Conference: “We Had 45 Minutes, and We [Would Have] Had to Rush Throug...

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The Radeon RX 9000 Series, a new generation of GPUs based on the RDNA 4 architecture, wasn't discussed at AMD's press event at CES 2025 on Monday because the company wasn't given enough time to introduce them properly, according to new statements derived from a roundtable interview with David McAfee, AMD's corporate vice president and general manager of its Client Channel Business, and Frank Azor, the chief architect of gaming solutions and gaming marketing at AMD.

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No no we didn't NOT say anything because we were waiting on Nvidia first I promise. We weren't waiting on them to give some idea of performance to price before we change our pricing targets.

MF no we can't change the names again... Just... put the bigger card in the lower rev model. We need to compete!
 
No no we didn't NOT say anything because we were waiting on Nvidia first I promise. We weren't waiting on them to give some idea of performance to price before we change our pricing targets.

MF no we can't change the names again... Just... put the bigger card in the lower rev model. We need to compete!

I think this is more likely. Sat down with them today for a briefing and they really didn't have anything else they "could" say about the 9070 / 9950X3D than was in the press deck that Brent wrote up for the initial announcement.

NVIDIA is also playing coy with launch dates for 5070 Ti/5070 (I believe Jan 30 is the on sale date for the higher ones) - they're probably doing some waiting on each other to tip their hand on performance numbers.
 
Yep, we've seen this poker game before. Just waiting for someone to say "call".
 
Now if Intel comes in with a 350 dollar 24 gig card that can deliver upper mid tier performance just out of left field it would pounce on a hungry market.
 
Yep, just so they can price 2-7% lower for a 5-15% lesser product in each tier (minus top, perhaps top 2 tiers in which AMD simply has no product) and get the sales of people in need of an upgrade but just cant find an Nvidia product at the tier they need.
Hope I am wrong though.
 
Now if Intel comes in with a 350 dollar 24 gig card that can deliver upper mid tier performance just out of left field it would pounce on a hungry market.
No one is interested in competing strongly in value. Maybe no one can?
I have hard time believing this, my proof is consoles, but whatever, I guess dgpu are soooo special, they have to be priced in multiples of console prices or be a junky low end.
 
Never know, Intel could possibly make a card like that using GDDR6. Might be closer to $375-400 but even then, that's not horrible and I wouldn't be surprised if we see something like that after Battlemage.

As far as value goes, I think it does happen but consumers really have to do their homework to find it. Something I've mentioned multiple times with the 40 series is how the 4070 Ti Super really went unnoticed by many. This card launched at $799 MSRP, and could easily be had for that including some OC models, and very few talked about it. It was merely a cutdown 4080 and I saw prices drop to $749. That's the same I paid for an Asus OC Edition 1080 Ti seven years ago but this card would run circles around it plus all the NV bells and whistles. Those days are gone now that inventory is drying up for the high-end 40 series but it was something I tracked since it was released. AMD has had its share a mid-tier cards as well in recent years that do well. On more than a few occasions, the Arc 770 dropped to ~$300 range. For mid-to-low tiers value can be found but it takes research. High-end halo stuff, nope, we're screwed.
 
Never know, Intel could possibly make a card like that using GDDR6. Might be closer to $375-400 but even then, that's not horrible and I wouldn't be surprised if we see something like that after Battlemage.

As far as value goes, I think it does happen but consumers really have to do their homework to find it. Something I've mentioned multiple times with the 40 series is how the 4070 Ti Super really went unnoticed by many. This card launched at $799 MSRP, and could easily be had for that including some OC models, and very few talked about it. It was merely a cutdown 4080 and I saw prices drop to $749. That's the same I paid for an Asus OC Edition 1080 Ti seven years ago but this card would run circles around it plus all the NV bells and whistles. Those days are gone now that inventory is drying up for the high-end 40 series but it was something I tracked since it was released. AMD has had its share a mid-tier cards as well in recent years that do well. On more than a few occasions, the Arc 770 dropped to ~$300 range. For mid-to-low tiers value can be found but it takes research. High-end halo stuff, nope, we're screwed.
4070 Ti Super was/is the sweet spot for price/performance. Nearly 4080 performance, 16GB VRAM, dual encoders, for hundreds less than the 4080.

Two weeks ago MC had them on sale for $720.
 
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