AMD Radeon VII No Longer in Production

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Anyone who desires a brand-new AMD Radeon VII better buy one ASAP. French hardware site Cowcotland has learned that the graphics card was declared "end of life" last month, which means it's no longer in production and whatever is in stores is final stock. We're treating this as an unconfirmed rumor at this point - we'll update you if we find out something for sure.

Being the world's first 7 nm gaming GPU, the Radeon VII does hold some value as a collectors' item, but it is largely overshadowed by AMD's new Radeon RX 5700 series. The VII manages to edge out the 5700 XT a tiny bit in terms of performance, but when price and architecture is factored in, the more sensible choice is clear.

The Radeon VII is AMD’s first 7nm-based graphics card featuring Vega 20 GPU with 3840 Stream Processors. The VII was also AMD’s first to feature 16GB memory for the consumer market.

With the announcement of Radeon RX 5700 series, it became clear that VII is simply not as power-efficient and cost-effective solution as Navi-based models.

This also puts an end to rumors about custom Radeon ‘7’ models.
 
All part of a grand plan I speculate. VII did always feel like just a stop-gap for consumers while they were finalising Navi production. RX 5800 and 5900 cards to be announced soon perhaps?
 
Can't say I'm too surprised (the lack of custom cards being a red flag for one). I can't say it's been my favourite gaming GPU (the stock cooler is so loud and is a constant distraction during Dishonored 2), but as a piece of hardware - the thing is a beauty. When it retires, it will probably be the first GPU that I get a display stand for and throw it on a shelf as a decoration.
 
Given that very carefully crafted reply to your question, I think AMD has discontinued manufacturing of the card and what is currently in the retail channel is all that is left.
 
They probably don't want to confirm until they're ready to announce a RX 5800 GPU. The fact it's not a clear denial speaks volumes.

Sounds plausible.

I don't think the Radeon VII was ever intended to be anything but a stopgap measure. Making a consumer GPU out of professional hardware and 16GB of HBM2 is expensive probably makes it difficult to make money off of at $799.

Once a higher end Navi comes out, designed to be a consumer part from the get go and thus able to be sold at a profit, it makes complete sense it would go away.
 
I wonder what the odds are of big Navi getting some HBM2 love?
 
Yes, but if the performance gained warrants the price increase...


I'm not sure I agree. Sure VRAM bandwidth goes way up, but I've never seen that make much of a difference. At the performance level Navi operates at, it is FAR from bottlenecked by the VRAM bandwidth of its GDDR6 VRAM.

I don't think adding HBM2 would have any performance impact at all for gaming workloads.

Now for compute, machine learning and stuff like that it might, but gaming? I doubt it. HBM2 has been a complete waste in every gaming application it has been used thus far. Gaming just doesn't benefit from that massive VRAM bandwidth gain.
 
I'm not sure I agree. Sure VRAM bandwidth goes way up, but I've never seen that make much of a difference. At the performance level Navi operates at, it is FAR from bottlenecked by the VRAM bandwidth of its GDDR6 VRAM.

I don't think adding HBM2 would have any performance impact at all for gaming workloads.

Now for compute, machine learning and stuff like that it might, but gaming? I doubt it. HBM2 has been a complete waste in every gaming application it has been used thus far. Gaming just doesn't benefit from that massive VRAM bandwidth gain.


I agree completely, but read the post you quoted again ;)
 
I thought HBM would be awesome in the APUs, or even the console SKUs, but I think their budget conscious design keeps it from being so.
 
I agree completely, but read the post you quoted again ;)

My bad, none of them said compute/machine learning applications, so I assumed gaming, as that is what most people seem to care about on these sites.
 
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