AMD Ryzen 7000 Series “Zen 4” Processors Expected to Launch in Q3 2022

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AMD hasn’t provided a launch date for its Ryzen 7000 Series “Zen 4” CPUs yet beyond the promise that they’ll show up somewhere within the second half of 2022, but Greymon55 seems to have a better picture of when they might be available to enthusiasts. According to the leaker, AMD will launch its next-generation processors before Q4, indicating a Q3 release based on the time frame that AMD has shared thus far. The launch date for the Ryzen 7000 Series will also seemingly be announced during Computex, which takes place from May 24 to May 27 this year. Greymon55 additionally shared that AM5 motherboards will enter production soon, possibly as early as this month.



ZEN4 Q4 ❌— Greymon55 (@greymon55) February 11, 2022



Earlier than that.— Greymon55 (@greymon55)...

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This may change my upgrade plans. I was thinking of upgrading my 2700x to a 5800 vCache when it comes out, but maybe it’s just better to wait for zen 4.
 
This may change my upgrade plans. I was thinking of upgrading my 2700x to a 5800 vCache when it comes out, but maybe it’s just better to wait for zen 4.

Still debating between 5800x and whatever the 5800 super cache.... I can swing 300 but don't want to drop 6-700 on new mobo, ddr5 etc. Like Grimlakin said, maybe sit out the first round of AM4 and let it mature a bit...
 
You'll be stuck with a 2700x forever then since "something" better is always coming out a few months later.
There is but waiting on the one that makes the most sense is still the best plan. Trying to stay cutting edge is a loosing battle
 
You'll be stuck with a 2700x forever then since "something" better is always coming out a few months later.
That’s why you buy at the start of a product cycle. For example, The time to buy the 3090 was Sept 2020, not now. I suspect I will regret stepping up my 3070ti to a 3080ti this close to the 4k series, but we will see.

Just once prior to this 3080ti upgrade, did I not worry about the product cycle - I bought a core2quad q9650 about 6 weeks before Nehalem. I should have waited 6 more weeks and bought a 920.
 
That’s why you buy at the start of a product cycle. For example, The time to buy the 3090 was Sept 2020, not now
Normally I’d agree with you but these are anything but typical times. People still in queue to buy this generations cards from launch day.
 
That’s why you buy at the start of a product cycle. For example, The time to buy the 3090 was Sept 2020, not now. I suspect I will regret stepping up my 3070ti to a 3080ti this close to the 4k series, but we will see.

Just once prior to this 3080ti upgrade, did I not worry about the product cycle - I bought a core2quad q9650 about 6 weeks before Nehalem. I should have waited 6 more weeks and bought a 920.

I don't agree. You buy a product when it can perform better than your current product at a price you're willing to pay.

Playing the waiting game never works out since you'd spend more time on "outdated" hardware.

It's the same as mentality as "future" proofing a build. No such thing.

Buy what you can when you have the money to buy it and the product is available.
 
Buying at the start of a product cycle means paying the early adopters fee, both in cash and problems.

If I didn't buy the 2080ti in the middle of the cycle, I'd have been holding a big bag of nothing when the 3080 launched. And still be stuck on a 1080 plain. But if I got it at the start of the product cycle I would not just have paid more for it, but also probably gotten space invaders instead.

So no. If there is a product out there that gives you the performance you want, for the money you are willing to pay, then buy it. Waiting rarely works out in your favor.
 
There is something to be said for early adopter tax. You do get to use the hardware for more time, it's a matter of if that is worth it to you or not. I think what @LeRoy_Blanchard and @MadMummy76 say is entirely accurate - you buy it when the speed/power/whatever is worth it to you (and it's available, which is an important caveat today). For some, that's right at release, for others waiting a bit for prices to drop is a bit better, but it amounts to roughly the same upgrade cycle, just a shift in time in when it occurs.
 
Waiting rarely works out in your favor.
I planned my purchase and bought a 1080ti release day. I intended for that 1080ti to be replaced with a 3090, but as it stands I got about 18 months with basically top tier performance. Then I got another 2 years of upper mid range performance for that purchase. It is throughly mid range now, which is why it was supposed to be replaced in 2020, but all told i got 60 months of use out of the card. My 3080ti will have top tier performance for around 7 months - not nearly the value perspective of buying a 3090 on release day.

Prior to the 1080ti, I bought a 980 on release day. Prior to the 980, I got a 670 on release day. Prior to that it’s a little fuzzy. It was an AMD card - I think a 4870, but not 100% certain.

Desktop wise, I have a 5950x I bought late Dec 2020 after an all night wait at microcenter. I would have bought day 1 if possible, but a 1 month delay wasn’t bad.

Prior to the 5950, I got a release day 2700x, and prior to that was a release day 3570k which I overclocked to just a hair under 5ghz. Prior to that was the 9650, which had barely no time as a top performer and was the worst value proposition of any Hardware I can remember buying. Prior that was a release day Conroe core 2 duo, and then we get back into AMD, but I’m a touch fuzzy - I think it was a thunderbird? Before that was complicated - it was a dual p3 733, but everything was a carry over from my dual processor p2 400 on a bx100 chipset. Tyan upgraded the chipset for free.

The value calculation I follow is based on number of months at or near top tier performance. It’s time to upgrade when you hit mid tier or lower, so if you buy right before the next product launch, you’ve lost half the lifespan of your purchase. This necessitates more frequent purchasing.
 
I planned my purchase and bought a 1080ti release day. I intended for that 1080ti to be replaced with a 3090, but as it stands I got about 18 months with basically top tier performance. Then I got another 2 years of upper mid range performance for that purchase. It is throughly mid range now, which is why it was supposed to be replaced in 2020, but all told i got 60 months of use out of the card. My 3080ti will have top tier performance for around 7 months - not nearly the value perspective of buying a 3090 on release day.

Prior to the 1080ti, I bought a 980 on release day. Prior to the 980, I got a 670 on release day. Prior to that it’s a little fuzzy. It was an AMD card - I think a 4870, but not 100% certain.

Desktop wise, I have a 5950x I bought late Dec 2020 after an all night wait at microcenter. I would have bought day 1 if possible, but a 1 month delay wasn’t bad.

Prior to the 5950, I got a release day 2700x, and prior to that was a release day 3570k which I overclocked to just a hair under 5ghz. Prior to that was the 9650, which had barely no time as a top performer and was the worst value proposition of any Hardware I can remember buying. Prior that was a release day Conroe core 2 duo, and then we get back into AMD, but I’m a touch fuzzy - I think it was a thunderbird? Before that was complicated - it was a dual p3 733, but everything was a carry over from my dual processor p2 400 on a bx100 chipset. Tyan upgraded the chipset for free.

The value calculation I follow is based on number of months at or near top tier performance. It’s time to upgrade when you hit mid tier or lower, so if you buy right before the next product launch, you’ve lost half the lifespan of your purchase. This necessitates more frequent purchasing.

Seems to me you buy more for FOMO than for SOTA. And that's fine to each their own.

I tend to balance both in my purchasing decisions. It matters when I have the excess capital to buy, and what is out at that time as opposed to where I am currently.

Before my 3900x I was running a 7700k, before that a 2600k. As you can see I tend to wait a few generations before I look to upgrade. Of course in that same lifetime I'd upgraded video cards. The main reason I didn't upgrade cPU's was the socket didn't support the next gen really. Now I have that option and will probably to 5900x here before too long.
 
The value calculation I follow is based on number of months at or near top tier performance. It’s time to upgrade when you hit mid tier or lower, so if you buy right before the next product launch, you’ve lost half the lifespan of your purchase. This necessitates more frequent purchasing.
I always base my purchases on value for money, and I upgrade when I need more performance, not just because it is available. 12 additional months of top tier performance means nothing if I don't need that extra performance. Then I just had it for the sake of having it.

If you don't actually need the extra performance you are just buying it for fomo.
 
I'll be skipping the 7000 series and upgrading to a 5800X3D. I don't need bleeding edge. X570/AM4 will keep me gaming for at least the next few years.
 
I always base my purchases on value for money, and I upgrade when I need more performance, not just because it is available. 12 additional months of top tier performance means nothing if I don't need that extra performance. Then I just had it for the sake of having it.

If you don't actually need the extra performance you are just buying it for fomo.
I can’t remember the last time I had enough video card performance. Even the 3080ti won’t max out cyberpunk on my old Dell U3011 with ray tracing enabled (without backing down quality via DLSS) let alone my newer monitors . I’m just not interested in gaming at low settings or on a low resolution panel.

Even if I was still using the Dell as my primary monitor, since I run folding@home 24x7 when not gaming, I’d still get use out of the higher power video card without it being a FOMO choice.

Now CPU on the other hand, you can see I’ve upgraded much less frequently. That old ivy bridge lasted the longest of any CPU in my primary machine - nearly 5ghz was plenty of performance until I started needing more than 4 cores.
 
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