Big Navi Reportedly Sent Out for Testing to North America

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On the heels of leaks about NVIDIA’s RTX3080/3070 GPUs there’s news about AMD’s forthcoming Big Navi. Guru3d has reported on an interesting post from Chinese website Chip Hell.



” confirmed 80 internal CUs. The internal evaluation is 2080ti, with hardware optical tracking. “



PCGamesN also reported on this and made comment that the translation from the post may imply additional details. They believe that it will support Turing’s hardware ray tracing. The post also states this card has RDNA2 architecture. If these pan out to be true then the 5800 XT will have a number of improvements over the 2080ti. From 4352/544 cores to 5120 cores and from 18.6b transistors to 21b. It will also be 7nm vs...
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Question is are numerous sites all reporting based on the same source?
 
It better be big enough to compete with what Nvidia is coming out with. Being a day late just doesn't cut it anymore with high end parts. Competing with 2080Ti doesn't make sense, unless they price it considerably less.
 
Im not too sure this many tiers is making sense to me.
I do hope big navi is a beast... But if I was AMD , i would look into cutting all these tiers to about 4 at most, and those 4 have 2 offerings that differ in memory amount and nothing else. I think at this point might be wise to have 2 or 3 actually different dies, not cut down same dies segmentation. Defective dies, salvage dies can easily be positioned for oem products.. but for retail the tier system needs to be cleaned up and prices better defined... Its a mess for either AMD or nvidia, looking at both together forget it its a cluster...
This **** needs some cleaning up pronto.. so.e channel clearing liquidation too... I think it would be a distinct advantage for whoever does it ( amd or Nvidia)
 
What is hardware optical tracking?

Is that a bad translation of ray tracing?
 
Riccochet said:
It better be big enough to compete with what Nvidia is coming out with. Being a day late just doesn't cut it anymore with high end parts. Competing with 2080Ti doesn't make sense, unless they price it considerably less.
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Too true. If that magic number is under $1000 and includes PCIe 4.0 along with HDMI 2.1 then I'm sold. An overclocked Strix or Trio variant would really do well for 4K gaming. The only other thing missing is what size/type of Vram. Has to be at least 11GB to be worth it.
 
lostin3d said:
Too true. If that magic number is under $1000 and includes PCIe 4.0 along with HDMI 2.1 then I'm sold. An overclocked Strix or Trio variant would really do well for 4K gaming. The only other thing missing is what size/type of Vram. Has to be at least 11GB to be worth it.
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I do believe AMD is getting their act together. And they know another disappointment in the GPU segment is going to piss people off.

If they best Nvidia their stock is going to go through the roof.
 
Riccochet said:
It better be big enough to compete with what Nvidia is coming out with. Being a day late just doesn't cut it anymore with high end parts. Competing with 2080Ti doesn't make sense, unless they price it considerably less.
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For me, I don't think AMD has to take the speed crown to pull out a win.

It would be nice, but I don't think it's a requirement for me, as I don't go throwing more than about $500 (and often much less) at a card anyway.

I thought the 5600 was a win - if only because it forced nVidia to move. That's all I think this card needs to do - make nVidia move in some of the upper tiers. Maybe not ~the top~ of the bracket, but at least bring some competition back to the higher end. The last few generations of top tiers (VII, 64, Fury) just haven't really forced nVidia to be competitive in any meaningful way in the $400+ brackets. That doesn't mean they were bad cards, I don't think that's necessarily true, but for price/performance, they just didn't really move the needle at all -- although any one of those cards for just a few dollars less could have (I understand the engineering just wasn't there for AMD to be able to do that though).
 
Can I get a big Navi 2? Also where is crossfire? We need multi-GPU back strong if we are going to push the next wave of display technology. LCDs are finally starting to match old professional CRTs. Starting to see real high frame rate again with black frame insertion working with adaptive sync. HDR with over 1000 nits, 10 bit color depth at 4:4:4. All in glorious 4k. There will always be a need for more power!
 
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