Cooler Master Launches MasterBox 520 Cases and Vertical Graphics Card Holder Kit V3

MadMummy76 said:
Can you buy an empty car frame? No, because it doesn't exist as a product. I'm comparing one product to another. One that innovated and another that stagnates and have been the same since forever. If I look for in-win I get two results local to me. One is using an even older layout than the one I'm complaining about, almost making it seem novel with the psu at the top. The other is an overpriced test bench.

You can all high five each other on how I'm wrong for wanting innovation, it won't change my opinion that I'm sick and tired of the standard tower case layout. There are so much possibilities if a manufacturer was willing to do things different. I'm not against having standard tower cases, but have one or two in your lineup, not the entire lineup.

If I look at lian-li all their tower cases are exactly the same.
If I look at CM, 2 of 48 of their tower cases has something minimally interesting about them, the rest is the same standard layout.

I'm sorry, but I've had enough of this. Is 46 different bog standard tower cases really necessary from one manufacturer?
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Then you need to be looking at complete systems from SI's not cases. Because you can buy a frame and whatever parts you want to put in it.

So do your comparisons to Alienware and the like and stop trying to blame a case vendor because you want them to have transforming liquid metal cases. (This is only a silly example)
 
I applaud innovation ... but I purchase a case so rarely that my buying power is not even a drop in an ocean to case manufacturers. The cases that come to mind that break the mold, albeit creating a new one, are the vending-machine towers from Thermaltake (e.g., their Tower 900 or smaller Tower 100), or the massive modular cubes from Mountain Mods (sadly no longer in business).

I agree that innovative generally leads (at least initially) to less volume which means higher cost per unit. Unfortunately, until the motherboard form factor experiences a significant paradigm shift, there's only so many ways to put stuff in a box without introducing proprietary components which will inherently segment themselves away from the bulk of the DIY PC market. DELL has tried this, and for their part have been mildly successful, but the DIY PC enthusiast market is clearly not their main source of revenue.
 
I'm confused by what sort of innovation people are referring to here, because an innovative case design could appear fairly bog standard from the exterior, which may or may not be desirable. But if it is an aesthetically unique case that one is after, then the cases from InWin to which @Denpepe linked sure seem to have that covered. I still haven't quite figured this one out yet: :D
www.in-win.com

InWin Diéy

Born and Mastered Through Imagination. FeaturesRobotic Sphered Structure Shrouded in ARGB ScalesSupports Multiple Virtual AssistantsPossesses Virtual Assistant Offline FunctionEnhance the Visuals with Built-In ProjectorAn Array of ARGB Lighting on Each ScaleDual-Purpose System for PC and...
www.in-win.com www.in-win.com

There was also that Aquarium PC case that was covered here last month:
www.thefpsreview.com

This PC Case Is Also an Aquarium

A Chinese company called MetalFish has listed what appears to be the perfect PC case for enthusiasts who also happen to be aquarists.
www.thefpsreview.com www.thefpsreview.com

I haven't seen anything that I'd describe as innovative from a utilitarian or functional perspective. It's mostly "art", but to each his own.
 
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Innovative could include desk cases (e.g., L3P desk, Lian Li DK-05F), but those are niche within a niche three-fold. And their cost is ... if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Seriously ... $2k+ for a desk and case is an order of magnitude too much. But there's that innovation for you: small volume, high cost.

The more Tesla tinkers with their automotive computer system (anyone up for a round of CP2077 ... anyone?), one could argue that it is one heck of an innovative case. Sure, it's not a desktop case (at least, not on purpose through no fault of the driver, I'm sure) but it is different.

The Emperor workstation seems like it might qualify as an innovative case ... albeit including desk, chair, and cup holders (not the everyday run-of-the-mill optical drive cup holders standard in many cases back in the '90s).
 
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Tempest said:
I haven't seen anything that I'd describe as innovative from a utilitarian or functional perspective. It's mostly "art", but to each his own.
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It's not as if I didn't mention multiple things, I even shown one on picture of what I thought of as innovative. I often find the neatest innovations in budget smaller form factor cases. Like one of my old microatx desktop cases had a flip out 5.25 drive bay that could be slid in and out on rails for easier access. So it's not true that a case needs to be expensive to have innovation.

Grimlakin said:
Then you need to be looking at complete systems from SI's not cases. Because you can buy a frame and whatever parts you want to put in it.

So do your comparisons to Alienware and the like and stop trying to blame a case vendor because you want them to have transforming liquid metal cases. (This is only a silly example)
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You are taking entirely the wrong thing away from that. I didn't mention cars because I think computer cases are like cars, I was just comparing how one industry innovates a lot while another regurgitates designs that have been around since the mid 90s.

There is a difference between doing silly things and doing nothing but the same thing for decades. But with 46 different bog standard tower cases in a manufacturer's line up, like can we have 40 bog standard, and 6 more unique designs?
 
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MadMummy76 said:
There is a difference between doing silly things and doing nothing but the same thing for decades. But with 46 different bog standard tower cases in a manufacturer's line up, like can we have 40 bog standard, and 6 more unique designs?
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Again, there are plenty of unique designs around if you look for them, but also PC parts have to fit in them so there are limitations to forms check these out for something somewhat different http://www.azza-tek.com/m/412-1275-6094.php?Lang=en#tab1

Corsair did a prebuilt their ONE machines, but it's expensive and hard to work in due to the small size https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Systems/CORSAIR-ONE/c/Cor_Products_CorsairOne
 
Only so many places you can put the things that can be moved. PSU and GPU. Companies have tried radical case designs, but they don't sell.
 
I honestly do not understand the "vertical mount GPU" craze.

Hey guys, let's make the PCIe signal path longer and less reliable for no other reason than me showing off my GPU through the case window.

Vanity and showing off are so eye-roll inducing. Humanity would really be better off if people just focused on the things that matter.
 
Zarathustra said:
I honestly do not understand the "vertical mount GPU" craze.

Hey guys, let's make the PCIe signal path longer and less reliable for no other reason than me showing off my GPU through the case window.

Vanity and showing off are so eye-roll inducing. Humanity would really be better off if people just focused on the things that matter.
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I don't get it either, but I also don't get 38" chrome rims on cars.
 
Zarathustra said:
I honestly do not understand the "vertical mount GPU" craze.

Hey guys, let's make the PCIe signal path longer and less reliable for no other reason than me showing off my GPU through the case window.

Vanity and showing off are so eye-roll inducing. Humanity would really be better off if people just focused on the things that matter.
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I didn't do it because of what others think. I did it for my own pleasure when I look at it. When I spend over a grand for water cooling I want to see all of it.

4 years and have had zero reliability or performance issues with the vertical mount.

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Zarathustra said:
Hey guys, let's make the PCIe signal path longer and less reliable for no other reason than me showing off my GPU through the case window.
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You can go pretty far without issues with good riser cables so the little ones used in most of these setups are fine, still that does not mean it'zs a good idea.

I have one of those blowtrough GPU's so I'm not tempted at all, let the hot air go straight up I say.
 
Riccochet said:
I didn't do it because of what others think. I did it for my own pleasure when I look at it. When I spend over a grand for water cooling I want to see all of it.

4 years and have had zero reliability or performance issues with the vertical mount.

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I don't use the vertical mount on my main PC, but since I paid for the mount in the H7 Flow case I decided to use it in my back up PC. Bought it directly from NZXT, and so far no issues. I do like that the card in that case gets some decent air flow with it mounted vertically.
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It's almost like you paid to see all the cool shtuff on the front of the card and now there's a way to see it.
 
Zarathustra said:
Who in their right mind buys a video card based on looks?
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Apparently they do. After seeing people say that the rangs of powah is good, when the writing in teletubbies was more inspired, I'm not surprised by anything anymore.

I couldn't see my gpu from where I'm sitting even if my case had a window, which I'm glad it doesn't.
If your PC case has a window, why not put a window on your AC unit? Or printer? I was going to say fridge, but that would be actually useful, we can't have that!
 
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MadMummy76 said:
Apparently they do. After seeing people say that the rangs of powah is good, when the writing in teletubbies was more inspired, I'm not surprised by anything anymore.

I couldn't see my gpu from where I'm sitting even if my case had a window, which I'm glad it doesn't.
If your PC case has a window, why not put a window on your AC unit? Or printer? I was going to say fridge, but that would be actually useful, we can't have that!
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To each their own I guess. For over twenty years I built PC's without any lighting or a side window on my case, mainly because they weren't around or they were cheap "plexiglass" panels. I didn't care much for al the bling anyway back then.The older I get, the more I enjoy seeing something I put hours into building myself. I don't buy hardware based on looks, but if it looks good after putting it all together then that's great. Putting a window on a printer or an AC unit as you mentioned doesn't make sense since nobody puts time into building those themselves. I'm sure there are cut away models at the factory. Also I'm not sure if you know but there are refrigerators that allow you to see inside them before opening them.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. People enjoy certain things or hobbies , so I do not understand why some people insist on trying to make them feel bad about what they enjoy. I will never understand the mentality in the world now. Maybe it was always there, but it's just heightened now.
 
Niner51 said:
To each their own I guess. For over twenty years I built PC's without any lighting or a side window on my case, mainly because they weren't around or they were cheap "plexiglass" panels. I didn't care much for al the bling anyway back then.The older I get, the more I enjoy seeing something I put hours into building myself. I don't buy hardware based on looks, but if it looks good after putting it all together then that's great. Putting a window on a printer or an AC unit as you mentioned doesn't make sense since nobody puts time into building those themselves. I'm sure there are cut away models at the factory. Also I'm not sure if you know but there are refrigerators that allow you to see inside them before opening them.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. People enjoy certain things or hobbies , so I do not understand why some people insist on trying to make them feel bad about what they enjoy. I will never understand the mentality in the world now. Maybe it was always there, but it's just heightened now.
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some people can't accept that others may have different opinions/wants/likes than their own. The only way they justify their opinion is by downplaying others.
 
The retail PC hardware market in general has effectively alienated many of its customers, and I suspect that what you're witnessing is partly a reaction to that and not intended personally. I'm pretty critical of case designs myself, but I certainly don't want to make others feel bad about their choices just because we have different tastes.

That said, maybe I should lighten up on the RGBs a bit... No promises though. ;)
 
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