Geekbench Flags Intel iBOT Results as Potentially Invalid, Investigation Finds Vectorized Instructions Behind 30% Gains

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Do you remember the renaming of Quake to Quack benchmarking controversy? We do, but in case you don’t, here’s another one for the pile. Intel’s new Binary Optimization Tool, better known as iBOT, is now doing some benchmark optimization of its own, and Geekbench’s response is worth paying attention to. Primate Labs, the developer behind […]

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When you are behind in the race you do what you can to kneecap whomever is ahead of you.

I mean, as we used to say in the Navy: if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.
 
Brian_B said:
I mean, as we used to say in the Navy: if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.
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I'm almost sure that I read something to that effect by Wedge Antilles advising a rookie in a Star Wars novel. It went something like, you can complain all you want about the other side being unfair but guess who is still alive at the end?
 
I remember reading about quack and quake on [H] way back when I was first getting into the computer hardware scene. My how things have changed, but stayed the same in some regards
 
Tyler-98-W68 said:
My how things have changed, but stayed the same in some regards
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Expect it to be magnified at Nova Lake launch. It's overloaded to the gills with extra features (APX, AVX10.2, 12 wide decode) that are unfortunately limiting the max frequency to no better than Arrow Lake. There might be no choice but to use iBOT for optimal performance until maybe Hammer Lake? After hitting 6.2 GHz with 13900KS, Intel really needed to keep boosting the max frequency with successive generations.

I hope we don't see the headline: "Intel, the company that once promised us 10 GHz with Pentium 4, just got eclipsed by the arch rival they have long considered inferior to their world class engineering prowess".

DISCLAIMER: Speculation based on rumors about current Nova Lake engineering samples. Intel could surprise us all, after all. Buy Intel stock NOW!
 
Brent_Justice said:
Radeon 8500 - Year 2001, good times
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I recall asking my parents for a new video card for Christmas. I had a Diamond Viper V770 Ultra, and wanted a 8500 however I ended up getting a 7500 as it was I believe around $100 cheaper than the 8500. But i was running it on such a low end system. I saw an improvement just not a huge one. K62 300, but at 336 because I could run a 112fsb and my pc100 ram actually cooperated.
 
Does this tool permanently alter the code of your installed apps?

How does that work with later patching and the like?
 
Elf_Boy said:
Does this tool permanently alter the code of your installed apps?
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No. It only patches them mid-execution and ONLY if you turn it on.

Elf_Boy said:
How does that work with later patching and the like?
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I think that's why they are using it only with old games that aren't going to be seeing any updates. The tool only works if the file checksum matches. Otherwise, it will not do anything and simply ignore the game after the checksum fails.
 
Well i think its interesting, its a good tool, but its true, its not really a ' cpu' architecture improvement. Its more of a software optimization process for the specific cpu, like a key and lock.
Be it that intel needs to work on things so.its supported, yeah thats not a thing, if it was a toggle you turn on and the cpu tries to do the optimization in whatever anything and everything, yeah that would be cool. But still these are good things to try in any case.
 
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