Next PlayStation and Xbox Consoles Are Rumored to Feature AMD UDNA/RNDA 5 Graphics

[Peter_Brosdahl]

Rumors surrounding Sony and Microsoft's next gaming consoles indicate both will use AMD's next generation of graphics.

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[Burticus]

Shocker. Also... I don't think I'm buying a PS6 / Xbox XXX..........my PS5 collects dust and mostly either plays PS4 games or 4KUHD blurays. My PC gets more use, but since I can't seem to get away from Civ V, CPU and GPU seem less important. I don't know why I upgraded from 1080ti to 4070, nothing I play really needs them. Except Indiana Jones which I can't play bc it makes me want to puke with all the headbob motion sickness.

Also also... exclusives this gen have been pretty thin. You could pretty much have anything xbox/pc/ps and play the same games.

 

[Brian_B]

Shocker. Also... I don't think I'm buying a PS6 / Xbox XXX..........my PS5 collects dust and mostly either plays PS4 games or 4KUHD blurays. My PC gets more use, but since I can't seem to get away from Civ V, CPU and GPU seem less important. I don't know why I upgraded from 1080ti to 4070, nothing I play really needs them. Except Indiana Jones which I can't play bc it makes me want to puke with all the headbob motion sickness.

Also also... exclusives this gen have been pretty thin. You could pretty much have anything xbox/pc/ps and play the same games.

Agree. I had a PS4, then switched to XB1X because the PS5 was virtually unattainable when I was looking to upgrade.

I had a decent library on the PS4, it got some decent use. I bought exactly 1 game on the Xbox, haven't exactly missed anything exclusive on the PS5 either. The only reason I keep the XB around is to have the BluRay player, and I've got like 4 UHD BD titles... two of which have sat in the wrapper since Christmas 2024 unopened waiting on us to have a movie night and watch them.

So yeah, next gen... not too excited right now.

 

[Stoly]

Its not much of a rumor as its the next logical step.

Waiting for claims that they will be faster than the RTX5090

 

[Stoly]

Also also... exclusives this gen have been pretty thin. You could pretty much have anything xbox/pc/ps and play the same games.

Xbox exclusives are going the way of the Dodo and more and more Sony exclusives are coming to PC.

 

[Peter_Brosdahl]

I think both are more concerned on how to make a next-gen console/mobile hybrid at this point. I have more doubts about how much of a increase in hardware performance they are focused on vs now, and instead are trying to figure out a bridge with improvement but also the mobile aspect. It is possible this next gen will be the last to have a plug-in only option.

As far as exclusives, MS has mostly chucked it out the window, but both will focus on time-limited releases as suits their needs. I don't see Sony changing in this respect anytime soon but I could easily be wrong.

 

[DrezKill]

I don't think I'm buying a PS6 / Xbox XXX

I've had at least one console every generation since the Atari 2600, and I think this current generation will be the first time I don't get any of the consoles. No PS5 or XBSX. Cuz I can play everything on PC. I've wanted things to be this way for a very long time now.

...exclusives this gen have been pretty thin. You could pretty much have anything xbox/pc/ps and play the same games.

I've been gaming since the 2nd generation of consoles, and this has been my dream for ages. I f*cking hate exclusives. I should be able to play any game on the platform I deem is best for that game (which to me will almost always be PC). All games should be available for all platforms.

Xbox exclusives are going the way of the Dodo and more and more Sony exclusives are coming to PC.

And this makes me very happy.

I had a decent library on the PS4, it got some decent use.

I never would have bought a PS4 if I had known most of the games I wanted to play on it would eventually end up on PC.

The last console generation I was heavily invested in was 7th-gen. I had all 3 consoles but I focused the most on my X360. I practically lived on the thing. That was the last console I spent a great deal of time on. Every generation after that has been less and less interesting to me. PC has always been my focus, but I started out on consoles and used to still mess with them a lot. But that hasn't been true for a long time now. The next consoles I buy will most likely be old ones (like I still need to get a Turbo Duo, and I need to replace some of my broken ones like PS2 and SNES/SFC). But after 8th-gen no I don't think I will be buying any more consoles. At least I hope that ends up being the case.

 

[MadMummy76]

I never would have bought a PS4 if I had known most of the games I wanted to play on it would eventually end up on PC.

Same, but if I also knew some games will take 5 years to get to PC, I'd have bought it anyway.

I don't regret buying it, as I could get out of it at a good price at the tail end of the lockdown induced demand. I almost got paid more for it in 2022 December, than I paid for it five years earlier new. Of course there was inflation but not this out of control yet.

 

[Marees]

Its not much of a rumor as its the next logical step.

Waiting for claims that they will be faster than the RTX5090

Probably around 4080 or 5070 ti

 

[Denpepe]

I've been gaming since the 2nd generation of consoles, and this has been my dream for ages. I f*cking hate exclusives. I should be able to play any game on the platform I deem is best for that game (which to me will almost always be PC). All games should be available for all platforms.

I understand you but I disagree, exclusives are what's needed to sell your platform and need to be good in order to do so, one of the main reasons that Sony is kicking MS *** is due to MS lacking severly in this area and it's what's keeping Nintendo alive.

Unfortunatelly the amount of exclusives is already pretty small and mostly timed these days so it does not matter much anymore but still it adds to brand recognition

 

[MadMummy76]

I understand you but I disagree, exclusives are what's needed to sell your platform and need to be good in order to do so, one of the main reasons that Sony is kicking MS *** is due to MS lacking severly in this area and it's what's keeping Nintendo alive.

Unfortunatelly the amount of exclusives is already pretty small and mostly timed these days so it does not matter much anymore but still it adds to brand recognition

Those platforms should be competing on accessibility, price, and features, not exclusives.

They always say they are selling hardware at a loss or at no profit. If that is actually true then they make more money on people who play would be exclusives on PC. They might even be in the red on people like me who used to buy consoles for a handful of exclusives and never play anything else on them.

So why not turn a loose - loose situation into a win - win and do away with exclusives completely?

I think XBOX ruined its image with the XBONE and never fully recovered from it, and the two tiered console generation they are pushing is not helping things either. It makes development difficult by forcing devs to support the garbage tier S, and its also confusing customers.

As for Nintendo I think their buyers are not reasoned actors but brand fanatics showing borderline cult behavior. They don't base their buying decision on any objective reasoned pros and cons of the competing platforms.

 

[Brian_B]

They don't base their buying decision on any objective reasoned pros and cons of the competing platforms.

It's all about the games. No one really cares about hardware specs. And Nintendo doesn't let other platforms play their games.

 

[MadMummy76]

It's all about the games.

Yes, but not because they particularly fond of those specific games, but because there is nintendo branding on them. There are some sony fans like this too, but at nintendo I think they make up the majority.

 

[Brian_B]

Yes, but not because they particularly fond of those specific games, but because there is nintendo branding on them. There are some sony fans like this too, but at nintendo I think they make up the majority.

You may not be fond of those games, but I couldn't presume to know if ~they~ are fond of them or not. I assume so, because they keep throwing money at them.

Fond covers a broad spectrum - doesn't necessarily mean they have to be good games. Some people are fond of them because of nostalgia, or because their friends play, or because it's trendy, or whatever. And ultimately, it is their money, they can spend it however they want to, even if they aren't fond of the games.

I know I'm guilty of occasionally buying a game not because I like it, or even intend to play it, but because I want to support the developer or the genre.

 

[Stoly]

It's all about the games. No one really cares about hardware specs. And Nintendo doesn't let other platforms play their games.

you mean "let"

 

[MadMummy76]

but because I want to support the developer or the genre.

Well, that's exactly it. I refuse to believe anyone would support nintendo if they were acting reasonably, with all the anti-fan crap they pull.

My point was that it's not worth comparing nintendo with sony or xbox, because their buyers are making an emotional choice rather than a reasoned one. This is why nintendo can get away with sub-standard HW, sub standard ports, and imo sub-standard exclusives.

 

[Stoly]

Well, that's exactly it. I refuse to believe anyone would support nintendo if they were acting reasonably, with all the anti-fan crap they pull.

My point was that it's not worth comparing nintendo with sony or xbox, because their buyers are making an emotional choice rather than a reasoned one. This is why nintendo can get away with sub-standard HW, sub standard ports, and imo sub-standard exclusives.

Nintendo and itz bazzillion switch units sold beg to differ.

 

[DrezKill]

I understand you but I disagree, exclusives are what's needed to sell your platform and need to be good in order to do so, one of the main reasons that Sony is kicking MS *** is due to MS lacking severly in this area and it's what's keeping Nintendo alive.

Oh I know this and I understand it. The whole reason to buy a certain platform over another one is cuz of the exclusives. This is something Microsoft hasn't understood for some time now, and why they are in last place. But exclusives are only good for the console manufacturers / platform holders. They're not good for the consumer. Oftentimes it's not good for the games either. Like Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom is a waaaaay better experience on PC via emulation than it is on Switch. You get 60fps, you get native 4K, you get mods that do things like improve the draw distance. The game being stuck on the Switch hardware leads to an inferior experience.

And as a gamer I shouldn't be forced to get a specific platform just cuz I want to play a certain game. First of all, I never bought consoles for just one or even a few games. At the bare minimum I needed 5 must-have exclusives before I would even start to consider buying a specific system. But yeah it's just better for me if those games are out on every platform (or at least most platforms), and then I can just buy them for whichever platform I wish. That's what I'm doing now with PS5 exclusives. No need to waste money on a PS5 when those exclusive games come to PC, where they look and run better, and I have more freedom with how I run the game (installation location, community mods, modifying game/config files, superior save file management, choice of controller, etc). Wish I could do the same for Nintendo games. Emulation is nice and all, but native ports is where it's at.

It's all about the games.

Yeah, which is another reason why console exclusivity is retarded. Let us play the games wherever we feel is the best place to play them. They shouldn't make that decision for us. Being forced to buy a Nintendo system to play Nintendo games, or a Sony system to play Sony games, is f*cking retarded. It sucks that Microsoft is getting their @sses kicked cuz they're the only ones who are doing sh1t like they should, offering their games on PC as well as other consoles. I give them mad props for doing that.

Unfortunatelly the amount of exclusives is already pretty small

And I hope it gets smaller still. I wouldn't mind seeing them disappear altogether.

Those platforms should be competing on accessibility, price, and features, not exclusives.

D4mn straight.

I think XBOX ruined its image with the XBONE and never fully recovered from it

Agreed.

the two tiered console generation they are pushing is not helping things either

That's for d4mn sure.

It makes development difficult by forcing devs to support the garbage tier S

Yupz.

As for Nintendo I think their buyers are not reasoned actors but brand fanatics showing borderline cult behavior. They don't base their buying decision on any objective reasoned pros and cons of the competing platforms.

I definitely see this play out with my friend who A.) always buys Nintendo sh1t no matter what, B.) refuses to buy anything from Intel or nVidia and only grabs PC hardware from AMD. So of course he got a Switch 2 at launch. I don't understand brand loyalty. Just buy the best product that exists, regardless of who makes it. Get the best bang for your buck, and don't waste your cash. Switch 2 is not even remotely worth its price, and Switch 1 and Wii U games weren't worth $60 and $70, so some Switch 2 games at $80 is straight laughable. As are Nintendo's usual "sale" prices of only $40.

I refuse to believe anyone would support nintendo if they were acting reasonably, with all the anti-fan crap they pull.

Yeah, that's how I think of it too. People who are in their right mind wouldn't be wasting money on Nintendo. I say this as someone who used to be a diehard Nintendo (and Sega) fan before I realized that companies should be kissing my @ss, not the other way around. My brother said I was brainwashed by Nintendo when I was younger, and that I still show some signs of it. But by and large I have escaped their programming and remain a neutral party. If you want me to buy your system, you better have a d4mn good reason for it. Otherwise just put your f*cking game on PC and I'll buy it there. I was raised in a multiplatform home so we weren't exclusively Nintendo, but Nintendo was favored the most, followed by Sega, and then Microsoft when they replaced Sega (although by that point I was already grown). We had Sony consoles too of course, and we were all up on PC gaming as well. It was during the 5th generation of consoles when I switched my focus and preference to PC. But I still stuck with consoles, until now.

Nintendo and itz bazzillion switch units sold beg to differ.

But it doesn't disprove @MadMummy76's point. A good amount of the people buying Nintendo stuff are not reasonable, logical people. A lot of them, like the friend I mentioned above, don't give a sh1t about how good or bad a Nintendo console is, or how expensive their games are, or any of the shady anti-consumer crap they pull. They see that Nintendo name and decide they must own that product.

My point was that it's not worth comparing nintendo with sony or xbox, because their buyers are making an emotional choice rather than a reasoned one. This is why nintendo can get away with sub-standard HW, sub standard ports...

I feel like Sony fans are like that too. But yeah the lack of rationality is why Nintendo gets away with sub-standard hardware, crappy ports, and re-selling the same dang games to us for prices that are way too high.

 

[Uvilla]

I dont know about your friend, but I doubt he represents me at all. Nintendo is a very easy choice with kids, and being portable is a huge plus, that is used routinely.
I have 3 switches, used and abused daily.
I do have a ps4, gathering dust for the most part.
Ps5? Maybe? Though honestly Im thinking games as a service / streaming netflix style for my next 'second' console, after my eventual switch 2 or i should say 3x switch2s within the next 1-2 years. Im havent been fully convinced by the services available, though MS's seems decent, Luna? Idk, it is cheap, idk.
As far as nintendo re releasing the game in different generations, this is a good thing, you dont have to buy it if you played it, why would you? I would buy it if I havent played it though.
What you are describing is hardware independency, which.... Games as a service gives you! Then again, just keep steam, and the endless driver / windows/ hardware updating, which can be entertaining by itself, as it gives you a good source of vexation/ relief cycles, and yes for the most part, you dont have to re purchase a game no matter too much the pc you are running.
Idk, nintendo works very well for the whole family. Graphics are way over rated in terms of providing the fun part of games, like super over rated.

 

[MadMummy76]

I dont know about your friend, but I doubt he represents me at all. Nintendo is a very easy choice with kids, and being portable is a huge plus, that is used routinely.
I have 3 switches, used and abused daily.
I do have a ps4, gathering dust for the most part.
Ps5? Maybe? Though honestly Im thinking games as a service / streaming netflix style for my next 'second' console, after my eventual switch 2 or i should say 3x switch2s within the next 1-2 years. Im havent been fully convinced by the services available, though MS's seems decent, Luna? Idk, it is cheap, idk.
As far as nintendo re releasing the game in different generations, this is a good thing, you dont have to buy it if you played it, why would you? I would buy it if I havent played it though.

No offense, but you seem to be the very model of the ideal consumer they want. The one, who doesn't ask questions, doesn't push back on anything, just buys the current thing and then gets excited for the next thing. Imagine saying that making you pay again for a game you already bought in the past is a good thing.

What you are describing is hardware independency, which.... Games as a service gives you! Then again, just keep steam, and the endless driver / windows/ hardware updating, which can be entertaining by itself, as it gives you a good source of vexation/ relief cycles, and yes for the most part, you dont have to re purchase a game no matter too much the pc you are running.
Idk, nintendo works very well for the whole family. Graphics are way over rated in terms of providing the fun part of games, like super over rated.

I have no idea how would any service offer hardware independence when each of them is tied to a specific HW. And even if say PS+ was available on PC, that doesn't make all PS games have a PC version.

Games as a service is only good for one thing: Strips you of ownership and all the strings attached to that from the publisher's perspective. As well as offering a more stable recurring income to appease investors compared to the regular release cycle of games.

What you must keep in mind that nothing they do is for our benefit. We are the product, not the customer anymore. And I will never settle for that.

I desire high quality games that I would want to own forever, not monthly slop coming off of the assembly lines