Latest Rumors Suggest That NVIDIA Is Delaying Its RTX 50 SUPER Series Indefinitely, and the RTX 60 Series May Not Arrive Until Mid-2027

LazyGamer said:
Like I see some people accepting this. It's 'good enough' to experience higher-end games and it's portable. I could see myself using it if I ever found myself gaming on the go, as I'm certainly never buying another 'gaming' laptop.

But I don't think that this will even begin to replace local hardware for gaming. Augment, expand the market? Sure!
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I never thought streaming would supplant physical media either, but here we are. Convenience always seems to trump quality.

I wouldn't be surprised to see that developers specifically start to target the latency issue.. I mean, AI can fix anything, right?
 
Brian_B said:
I mean, AI can fix anything, right?
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If used properly by experts.

My own example: My rudi_bench had a flawed inner loop generated by Deepseek. Schmide on AT forums with actual assembly language experience and practical knowledge of timing issues helped me fix it. How will I know if something AI gives me is accurate if I lack the basic knowledge to verify it?
 
igor_kavinski said:
If used properly by experts.

My own example: My rudi_bench had a flawed inner loop generated by Deepseek. Schmide on AT forums with actual assembly language experience and practical knowledge of timing issues helped me fix it. How will I know if something AI gives me is accurate if I lack the basic knowledge to verify it?
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First, my attempt at sarcasim obviously failed here

Second, I think your example is an excellent one and is indeed what I’m trying to convey - but I don’t think is where industry executives are heading
 
The issue is there are execs that understand the risks. Problem is those are not c level people.

What happens is company is excited they want AI and all that means now but they want to be careful.

How do they do that?

They create a new c level position that's responsible for AI success in the company.

How is success measured?

Money. Via new money or efficiencies (more work same cost or same work less cost.)

C level success is based on this so they drive forward to more money **** everything else. Leaders who balk are either whipped into shape. Politically powerful enough to resist. Or just see the writing on the wall and try to have a hand on the wheel.

Either way success or failure of AI in the org is attributed ultimately to this new c level person. If company suffers they get fired. If it succeeds the org expects more.
 
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Just dropping this here for now since I think we have enough coverage regarding various NV rumours. Basically the latest suggests a bit of a flip-flop from a previous. Instead of cutting down on the 5060, goiing all in on the 8GB version and reducing other cards.

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NVIDIA To Prioritize RTX 5060 at Expense of Rest of 50 Series

It's been predicted for a while now that the looming DRAM crisis would have an effect on GPU prices in 2026, with previous stories we've covered indicating that cards like the RTX 5090 would see increases up to $5,000 before the end of the year. Now, an industry insider has claimed on Board...
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Cheapest MSI Shadow 5060 Ti 16GB in UAE is about $516. Will update once the prices go nuts.
 
Probably the best thing Nvidia could do - because everything else requires so many DRAM dies that prices must go up.

I wonder if they'll have some sort of reissue of parts from other fabs to tap into other sources of DRAM, like there's talk of AMD producing more AM4 CPUs to use DDR4.
 
LazyGamer said:
Probably the best thing Nvidia could do - because everything else requires so many DRAM dies that prices must go up.

I wonder if they'll have some sort of reissue of parts from other fabs to tap into other sources of DRAM, like there's talk of AMD producing more AM4 CPUs to use DDR4.
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Weren't there a bunch of AM5 sockets that could run DDR4 or DDR5 or was that Intel boards?
 
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NVIDIA Reportedly Ends GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Production, RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB Next

NVIDIA has reportedly stopped production of its mid-range GeForce RTX 5070 Ti graphics card, according to ASUS, one of the largest PC manufacturers. ASUS shared exclusive information with Hardware Unboxed, revealing that NVIDIA has created a supply shortage for the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti...
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- GG folks, the current situation is somehow even worse than either of the mining incidents.

Hope this AI thing cools it's jets sooner rather than later (although my retirement account and investments dont want it to).
 
Grimlakin said:
Honestly if you consider the sociopolitical environment people wil gladly give away themselves to play in the cloud for free or cheap and be happy to do it. Marketing will get deep. Markets will hopefully shift. Those of us that stuck to pc gaming will wipe the floor with the new "console/cloud" high latency gamers. They will want to game.qt low latency like hardware gamers can and pc and local hardware consoles will see a resurgence but remain prohibitively expensive.

At least thsts what I see.
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Its possible but they will need a lot, lot, lot of marketing cash and they will be doing it to the current young generation 10-18 year olds over the next 10 years. Older people won't buy into it much besides some peer pressure. The pricing wars with the economy and the last ten years of crypto, 2020 work from home demand, and now AI supply issues all driving costs and prices up, people are not going to care. Most of the gamers I see out there are wise to the marketing games being played. The market will shrink even if some big names survive, simply because people love their particular guilty pleasure game like COD, Fortnite, etc.. Those will mostly have to be free to play or dirt cheap entry. The whole $70-80-100 games debate is over. It failed, because its the economy stupid and their games suck overall (see BL4, Outerworlds2, endless others).

I think many will run what PC hardware they have into the ground now, especially because the hardware lasts so long and has to otherwise the game makers have no customer base. I know people lament the old Steam flash sales but there are sales all the time now, you just have to pay attention. It is how the devs/pubs try to keep their products in the public eye.
 
AI fueled compression and frame generation algorithms will allow for less and slower memory.
Slight sarcasm aside its about effin time efficiency takes a front seat, these giant whale sized chips using the latest memory at insane prices dont make sense, havent for years.
I may be wrong here, but PC gaming seems to have a serious efficienty issue no one is daring to do anything about it since, honestly, theyll be crushed by nvidia anyway.
Add that atroucious driver implementation, its a technical disgrace, each time they announce a driver upgrade gives 15-40% improvement in xyz its a daming statement of the poor state of affairs.
Standards should be reworked, this is dabbling in garbage, patching garbage, everybody needs to get out of whatever this is, becuase its crap.
No saying its easy, not even saying its possible, but man i cant see it any other way, 700w cards wtf.
 
An achivement to me would be: small chip, memory 2-4 generations behind, cheap memory, perhaps a larger amount on a tricked out bus IDK. Clean repeatable fast compression for real frame generation, 4k 60fps across all gameplay, all games made with likely a reworked framework/standard and some low wattage figure 50-100w whatever i dont know physics.
What we got is 700w+ cards with melting cables, drivers that can change performance widely , tricks for resolution and frame rates (some good, some not so much i guess , idk)
1 giant company that 2 others try to follow and dare not to re think.
Perhaps there is a real physics-based imposibility aspect to this, idk, i dont think so. I do recognize there is an improbablity created via market forces, dominant players etc.
Perhaps what may happen, when local computing dies for the most part, it may get a revival, as in buy this new pc, and that new games console / pc would be such a different beast out need, a steam box in 2035 might be a highly efficient reworked frame work out of need, since local computing will be deeply affected easing the tensions in the market we have now, which really dont allow for enough change, idk, just talking, doesnt mean i claim sense.
 
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