Dying Light 2 Fans Unhappy over Last-Minute Addition of Denuvo

Pronounced ... noo - neh

I'm Canadian, so it sounds more like "nooo-ehn" for us.

Now that the word's stuck in Dan's mind, he's totally going to unknowingly write 'noone' in one of his reviews, which I'll promptly quote.
 
I nowadays often end up typing a completely different word that sounds like the one I wanted to use. But so far I caught them more often than not.
 
Seems it's an iddue to people who want to make it one.

As to the question, other then the makers probably no one.

Fixed that for you. I have no idea why people are so intent on combining those two words.
Yet, you didn't fix "iddue". I guess I've gotten used to forum spelling, where I assume everybody is using a phone.

I avoid Denouvo when I can, but I think there have been times i didn't know it was included when I bought the game.
 
Yet, you didn't fix "iddue". I guess I've gotten used to forum spelling, where I assume everybody is using a phone.
I use a keyboard, and I tought I fixed that typo, does not help that I can barely read the letters on my keyboard tough.

In my defense I already had 2 injections in my eye this year to try and save what's left of my eyesight
 
Yet, you didn't fix "iddue". I guess I've gotten used to forum spelling, where I assume everybody is using a phone.

I avoid Denouvo when I can, but I think there have been times i didn't know it was included when I bought the game.
Mostly have to agree. I'm totally against it since piracy will happen with or without it and I'm completely unconfident it makes a huge enough dent to justify the costs to the developers.
 
Mostly have to agree. I'm totally against it since piracy will happen with or without it and I'm completely unconfident it makes a huge enough dent to justify the costs to the developers.

The argument for it I have heard is that it is intended to prevent piracy during initial launch. Both developers and publishers realize that it is hopeless to prevent piracy all together, but most games make the vast majority of their money during and shortly after launch, so the more they can delay the availability of pirated versions, the better.

As we have seen time and time again, gamers as a whole are an incredibly impatient lot, willing to throw money after just about anything, no matter if they are rewarding poor behavior by businesses or scalpers just to get instant satisfaction, so it only makes sense that this applies to games as well.

And as we have seen lately, Denuvo has been getting better. Gone are the days when Denuvo was hacked within days or even weeks of launch. It has been almost 4 months since Far Cry 6 launched, and Denuvo still hasn't been broken.

A while back I did some googling and came across a piracy group on Reddit suggesting that there really only was one person in the scene who has had any success in breaking recent Denuvo builds, someone who calls herself Empress, and she has been very quiet lately, leading to suspicion that she has either faced some sort of secret legal consequences, or been paid off or flipped by Denuvo to stop what she has been doing.

Either way, I don't recall hearing about any game shipping with Denuvo being compromised in the last 6 - 8 months. I may have missed some, but at the very least the pace has drastically slowed.

I'm not in a position to weigh the cost of a Denuvo contract vs. the benefit in launch window sales, but that's at least the justification that I have read.

I also generally buy games way after launch, when Denuvo has already been removed from the release, so I have never experienced the performance impacts from Denuvo first hand. This game is actually the first I am aware of with Denuvo that I am considering buying, but like @hubaduba above, I've probably bought it in the past without knowing.

I generally don't pirate, it makes me feel badly that I am negatively impacting those who are bringing me the games I enjoy. I prefer to make sure the developers get paid, but in rare circumstances I have exceptions. Far Cry is one of those, as I refuse to install Uplay or Ubisoft Connect or whatever the hell they are calling their launcher/store these days. I even have two free codes for the game that came with hardware I bought, and I refuse to redeem them. Forced launchers/stores ought to be illegal. I also pirated the Outer Worlds when it first launched as there was no way I was going to install the Epic Game Store. I then bought it as soon as it came out on Steam and finished the game with the official version.

Sadly these circumstances are becoming less and less rare these days though. It seems like barely a launch goes by these days without an bribed Epic Exclusive or a forced publisher store.

My general stance is that if they are going to try to screw me over, by trying to manipulate me into installing software I don't want, or creating accounts I don't want, then it's a completely different situation, and I don't feel badly at all for pirating something.
 
Just found this gem in the Dying Light 2 EULA.

Techland Eula said:
All rights not expressly granted in this License Agreement are reserved by Techland or its licensors, and except for the express licenses, the Program, no other licenses are granted in this License Agreement. Unless otherwise expressly set forth in the License Agreement or as permitted by any applicable local law, the User may not:
<snip>
f. release the results of any testing or performance benchmarking of the Third Party Software without Techland’s prior written consent;

Who do they think they are?

I'm going to benchmark the crap out of this **** and post it everywhere I can.
 
Just found this gem in the Dying Light 2 EULA.



Who do they think they are?

I'm going to benchmark the crap out of this **** and post it everywhere I can.
I'm sure Denuvo gave them The Discount® for including that clause.

I can't see how they would enforce it though. As soon as someone does post said benchmarks, the cat is out of the bag. And you know they will get posted as soon as the data is available. You can try to go after one semi-anonymous Reddit poster, but it won't do you a whole lot of good.

Maybe it might keep the big review sites from breaking the news, but it won't keep them from linking or reposting... or for dropping it anonymously on reddit so they can do so.
 
I just installed the game. Was hoping for an easy built in benchmark. Unless it is hidden somewhere (like a separate executable in the folder somewhere like with some other games) I did not see it.

I'm not ready to fire it up yet (still have to finish Cyberpunk) but I kind of wanted to get some benchmarks in.

I have to say I am a little disappointed thus far.

This game fails at one of my biggest pet peeves. Not all controls are customizable/bindable from the in game menu.

The "alt" key for expert grappling hook use does not appear to be able to be rebound.

Additionally, no key that is by default assigned to the keyboard appears to be able to be bound to the mouse.

For me that means this game is unplayable until I have a chance to tinker with the settings file, or use a registry hack to reassign keyboard keys.

This is just such a frustrating thing. All developers should know by now that 100% of all button presses used in game must be user definable.
 
Well, dunno how much adding Denuvo helped...... It's out in the wild. I see PS4 and PC-ISO out and about. Gallivanting and flaunting their wares..... Whores......
 
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