Sure there is... do you trust your boomer grandparents enough not to just install everything and save everything to the C drive of their computer and then bitch when it is out of space and crashes all the **** time?This should have ended a decade ago.
Already by 2012 they were affordable enough that there was no reason to not at least have a small dedicated boot SSD.
I understand where you are coming from but the sad fact is, mechanical drives as boot volumes is painfully slow once you've experienced the OS on an SSD.Sure there is... do you trust your boomer grandparents enough not to just install everything and save everything to the C drive of their computer and then bitch when it is out of space and crashes all the **** time?
Sure there is... do you trust your boomer grandparents enough not to just install everything and save everything to the C drive of their computer and then bitch when it is out of space and crashes all the **** time?
That's why they made those hybrid drives. Even Apple had them. Not as good as pure SSD for speed, but it sure as heck beats a HDD, and they are grandparent-proof.Sure there is... do you trust your boomer grandparents enough not to just install everything and save everything to the C drive of their computer and then bitch when it is out of space and crashes all the **** time?
Yea I remember when a place I worked at got new workstations with hybrid drives... It was alright.That's why they made those hybrid drives. Even Apple had them. Not as good as pure SSD for speed, but it sure as heck beats a HDD, and they are grandparent-proof.
Sadly I have had similar experiences. It really boggles the mind how people can be like this.That is a problem I ahve struggled with when setting up computers for other people, even way younger ones who should know much better.
I've even created links to the second drive, their hard drive on their desktop and showed them how to save files on the hard drive and they still don't do it. And these aren't grandmothers, or even my parents, but people my age, now in their 40's.
When I point it out, they are like, uh, show me how to find that other drive again (for the 18th time)
Typical computer literacy is absolutely appalling unfortunately.
Same. It's kinda depressing actually. In the past couple years I built some X570 machines for my friend's girlfriend's kids who are in their 20s, and one for my friend who is a few months older than me. They all behaved like this. I think I've finally set them straight, but I'm not there to supervise their computer use every single day. Who knows what horrible train wrecks they have made out of the pristine systems I built for them. I try not to think about it.I've done all the things already mentioned in this thread and more but d**n it if they still don't find ways to save crap on the root needlessly. What's worse is when they can't find it because they just let everything go where Windows or some program, or browser/site, chooses for them. I also agree that it's not age-related either as I've experienced this with just about every age group that can hit the power button and start clicking on a mouse.
That is a good article. It reminds me of an old adage "something given has no value". There are some of us who will always take value in what we have while others will only assign a value if it's something they had to work towards. Many people will experience computer services as a given thing and not place any value beyond their time on clicking on a mouse for what they need. Mechanics see the same behavior with how cars get treated as well.Booting from HDDs is horribly painful. I left that sh1t ages ago.
Sadly I have had similar experiences. It really boggles the mind how people can be like this.
Same. It's kinda depressing actually. In the past couple years I built some X570 machines for my friend's girlfriend's kids who are in their 20s, and one for my friend who is a few months older than me. They all behaved like this. I think I've finally set them straight, but I'm not there to supervise their computer use every single day. Who knows what horrible train wrecks they have made out of the pristine systems I built for them. I try not to think about it.
This thread reminded me about a depressing article I read in recent years: https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z
On a production PC I agree. But if I'm just putting together a PC quickly for whatever purpose, I might not have SSDs lying around all the time. But there is always one retired HDD.This should have ended a decade ago.
Already by 2012 they were affordable enough that there was no reason to not at least have a small dedicated boot SSD.
All thanks to Apple and MS deliberately trying to hide the inner workings of file systems from the user. The windows store is especially egregious in this regard, putting and downloading apps wherever it **** well pleases without any user oversight or control. But browsers downloading files into the user directory by default without asking are just as guilty.Same. It's kinda depressing actually. In the past couple years I built some X570 machines for my friend's girlfriend's kids who are in their 20s, and one for my friend who is a few months older than me. They all behaved like this. I think I've finally set them straight, but I'm not there to supervise their computer use every single day. Who knows what horrible train wrecks they have made out of the pristine systems I built for them. I try not to think about it.
Same. It's kinda depressing actually. In the past couple years I built some X570 machines for my friend's girlfriend's kids who are in their 20s, and one for my friend who is a few months older than me. They all behaved like this. I think I've finally set them straight, but I'm not there to supervise their computer use every single day. Who knows what horrible train wrecks they have made out of the pristine systems I built for them. I try not to think about it.
This thread reminded me about a depressing article I read in recent years: https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z
Yeah, it's the iPad generation.
It's sad.
Some simplifications make sense in order to make things easier. This is one that does not. File and folder structures are a crucial concept, and it frustrates me to no end when Microsoft tries to hide them in their Office 365 system.
Having to click a special button just in order to reveal the file/folder view is insane and makes me angry every single time I use the "save as" dialog.
Microsoft needs to stop being an enabler for this stupidity.
I think it's analogous to cars - as many cars to computers analogies that can be made.
Used to be everyone knew how to use their spare tire, how to check the oil, how to shift a manual transmission, etc.
Now cars don't even have keys for the ignition, don't need to use more than one pedal, and can drive themselves if you let them, etc.
Yeah, I suspect this will kind of be a "Quality of Life" type of thing, where Microsoft may require it of OEM's in order to get their certification or blessing or whatever for whatever it is worth.Just so long as one still has the option to use a hdd as a boot drive, I don't care what MS wants OEM's to do.
I've got to wonder, not that I actually look for bottom-barrel laptops: is shipping with spinners still like a thing?