NVIDIA Unveils DLSS 5, to Help Achieve Photorealistic Lighting While Honoring the Artist’s Original Intent and Image Quality

[Grimlakin]

I think its the walled garden keeping steam out of full on Mac gaming. Because if steam figured out how to do it right so any steam deck software could run on a Mac apple would pounce to try and seal off the walled garden and take their 30%.

 

[Brian_B]

I think its the walled garden keeping steam out of full on Mac gaming. Because if steam figured out how to do it right so any steam deck software could run on a Mac apple would pounce to try and seal off the walled garden and take their 30%.

Steam runs, even has Big Picture Mode and everything on OS X. Apple does have an App Store on OS X, but it isn't nearly as big as it is on iOS, since OS X is open and not a walled garden, so no need for Valve to break into the walled garden and fork over 30% as long as it stays on OS X and doesn't try to bridge to iOS. Valve wouldn't want to do that anyway, as they make their money charging their own 30% cut (or whatever their number is, I dunno)

But aside from that, running "all games like the Steam Deck" is a bit bigger reach, because you need to bridge that x86 vs ARM thing.

Apple is now depreciating their internal x86 emulation (Rosetta 2) - it was great at being almost entirely transparent and seamless, but it wasn't highly optimized for gaming (although it could do it in some instances). It is supposed to be entirely gone from the newer OS revisions starting next year.

Apple doesn't really care, because their bread and butter is pushing everyone to iOS apps natively, and Valve hasn't made any move to get themselves on the App Store (and it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to do so). The only reason Apple hasn't pushed to make App Store mandatory on OS X is because it would be the literal end of OS X for them, and they don't really want to give up the image of still having a general use computer.

 

[Grimlakin]

Apple doesn't really care, because their bread and butter is pushing everyone to iOS apps natively, and Valve hasn't made any move to get themselves on the App Store (and it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to do so). The only reason Apple hasn't pushed to make App Store mandatory on OS X is because it would be the literal end of OS X for them, and they don't really want to give up the image of still having a general use computer.

If Apple plays the game and focuses on customer first and consumer first, and avoids catering to the AI enterprise exclusively they have the clout and capacity to become the defacto choice for desktop and mobile compute. Anything else will be over priced and under performant especially if they keep up the trend of improving their M series of processors.

I think Apple is well positioned to rule the roost and use their mobile generated money to re define the desktop and home compute market.

But that's just me... I could be wrong.

 

[Peter_Brosdahl]

 

[MadMummy76]

The problem is, since it's the same algorithm for every game, there will be a 'sameness' or likeness for every game; they will all start to share the same style and feel, removing uniqueness.

If the sameness would be genuine photorealistic look, that would be fine. But what we are getting is that uncanny AI slop look.

This is supposed to be a tool and a demo of the tool that developers can use... right?

Only as much as any previous iteration of DLSS is.

What boggles my mind is how much juice this takes to run

What boggles the mind is that it can even run real time on any hardware let alone on a consumer GPU. I'm used to generative AI running 1 minute / frame.

I have a few guesses on what trickery must be going on behind the scenes to achieve this but ultimately it doesn't matter how they do it. What matters is that their claims are wildly exaggerated or outright false.