Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Dual Edition is Official: AMD Puts 3D V-Cache on Both Chiplets, Launches April 22

[Brian_B]

did AMD lie?

Maybe they just figured out how to do it?

 

[Brian_B]

I’m betting CPUs get pretty inexpensive now that RAM is choking off people from upgrading

Gotta try to entice people to do drop-in upgrades

 

[igor_kavinski]

So two good reasons why they decided to hold off on this part. More power hungry (if you want max performance out of it) and lower boost clock.

I guess these are valid reasons. But I wish they would've launched both at the same time and let the market decide on which one to keep making more of.

 

[Brian_B]

I guess these are valid reasons. But I wish they would've launched both at the same time and let the market decide on which one to keep making more of.

No no no, you have that all wrong.

You release the weaker part first, and let everyone jump on it.

Then 3 months in, you let the rumor drop about the "better" part.

Then 6 months in, some benchmarks start to "leak".

Then 9 months or so later, you release the "better" part, and watch all those people who want ~the best~ jump on it too.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Then 9 months or so later, you release the "better" part, and watch all those people who want ~the best~ jump on it too.

But that lets out a lot of negative energy from disgruntled techies and it could affect future AMD stock performance

Anyway, let's speculate on the pricing. I think it will be $799.

 

[Grimlakin]

They will match it to the current going price for a 32 gig of DDR5 MT 6000 CAS30 ram.

 

[igor_kavinski]

while this sounds great on paper, I don't think there will meaningful real world benefits.

People will imagine the benefits because there's more cache.

 

[Stoly]

I guess there's a reason we don't have performance numbers yet...

 

[Peter_Brosdahl]

I find that I always have more benefits when I have more cash.

 

[Riccochet]

I never really saw the point of cache on both CCD's. You wouldn't want that for gaming due to fabric latency, and you wouldn't want it for productivity since the cache adds no value there.

To me it seems like they are making it just to make it. It's a lot more expensive for minimal gains under specific workloads.

 

[igor_kavinski]

To me it seems like they are making it just to make it.

They have said somewhere before that it helps AI workloads so that's their impetus for making it since it aligns well with their current strategy (AYE AYE!). I don't know if you saw Lisa's presentation for when we were expecting her to spill some details on Zen 5. It was 60+ minutes of her repeating the words enterprise and AI. Not going to wake up ever again just to watch another presentation of hers.

 

[LazyGamer]

It's a lot more expensive for minimal gains under specific workloads.

We're not even clear what the breadth of those workloads are, we just know what they're not - anything that a desktop user would do, including gaming.

 

[igor_kavinski]

We're not even clear what the breadth of those workloads are, we just know what they're not - anything that a desktop user would do, including gaming.

Technically, you could do a multistation PC, with one CCD allocated to each user. Then you could stop the fighting in the house between kids