Brian_B
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So the current gen outage is ridiculous... but it is what it is. I see cards trickling out, a drip, but there's movement.
I have another build that I was working on. I have an older RX580 that I plan to throw into it, but I thought - hey, let's see if I can't find something a bit beefier to throw in there. My first thought was to check out EVGA. Since they were doing the queues for the current gen, I thought I'd give them a shot to help support them for doing something pro-consumer. I wouldn't mind a current gen card, but wasn't expecting it and not intending to sign up for (yet another) queue. I went in looking for something like a 2060S, that was available in inventory that I could drop into this build that wouldn't need to be immediately replaced again for 1080p gaming.
Nope. No 2060's. No 2070's. No RTX, not even most 1600 series cards.
In fact, the only cards I could find were a couple of 1650 models, and that was all that was recent. There were some 1030s. 710s. 210s. And 8400s. I thought - hmm. Well EVGA is doing well for themselves obviously. Good on them. So I threw out a bigger net and just popped over to Amazon to see what a 2060S was running of any brand.
$899.
For a 2060S. Yeah, there are cheaper options. The cheapest in stock option for an RTX card of any sort I could find on Amazon - $489. A quick search over at Newegg showed much the same.
My favorite:
This scalper crap has got a bit out of control.
I have a hard time blaming the retailers - they just want to move product, and it's obviously moving. I'm really starting to despise the third party sales that Newegg and Amazon allow. I wish I could more easily restrict my search options to just first party inventory and cut all that noise out -- if I wanted something resold second hand, I'd check out Ebay or Craig's List.
I hate to say something anti-consumer, like linking warranty coverage to the original purchase only, or requiring the serial number to be recorded by the retailer on original purchase: I've seen both of those done in the past and I'm not a huge fan, although it's really about the only way I could see to even limit scalping like we are seeing it now. There's no way in hell I want any sort of government regulation to step in here, as that will make a bigger mess than anything.
I hate the situation, but honestly, it only exists because people are impatient (or dumb, or both) enough to pay the scalper price. If people wouldn't do that, the scalpers wouldn't exist. So I guess we really have no one but our neighbors to blame. I do distinguish this from people using bots to place personal orders - that's just playing the game against the scalpers, rather than feeding the trolls. The need for a script or bot to place an order is another symptom of the problem, not the root cause.
I wasn't in dire straits for a card this go around, fortunately, so I'll continue to wait. But god help you if you had a machine down or something and needed a replacement. And thank god this isn't for something that's really needed, like food.
I have another build that I was working on. I have an older RX580 that I plan to throw into it, but I thought - hey, let's see if I can't find something a bit beefier to throw in there. My first thought was to check out EVGA. Since they were doing the queues for the current gen, I thought I'd give them a shot to help support them for doing something pro-consumer. I wouldn't mind a current gen card, but wasn't expecting it and not intending to sign up for (yet another) queue. I went in looking for something like a 2060S, that was available in inventory that I could drop into this build that wouldn't need to be immediately replaced again for 1080p gaming.
Nope. No 2060's. No 2070's. No RTX, not even most 1600 series cards.
In fact, the only cards I could find were a couple of 1650 models, and that was all that was recent. There were some 1030s. 710s. 210s. And 8400s. I thought - hmm. Well EVGA is doing well for themselves obviously. Good on them. So I threw out a bigger net and just popped over to Amazon to see what a 2060S was running of any brand.
$899.
For a 2060S. Yeah, there are cheaper options. The cheapest in stock option for an RTX card of any sort I could find on Amazon - $489. A quick search over at Newegg showed much the same.
My favorite:
This scalper crap has got a bit out of control.
I have a hard time blaming the retailers - they just want to move product, and it's obviously moving. I'm really starting to despise the third party sales that Newegg and Amazon allow. I wish I could more easily restrict my search options to just first party inventory and cut all that noise out -- if I wanted something resold second hand, I'd check out Ebay or Craig's List.
I hate to say something anti-consumer, like linking warranty coverage to the original purchase only, or requiring the serial number to be recorded by the retailer on original purchase: I've seen both of those done in the past and I'm not a huge fan, although it's really about the only way I could see to even limit scalping like we are seeing it now. There's no way in hell I want any sort of government regulation to step in here, as that will make a bigger mess than anything.
I hate the situation, but honestly, it only exists because people are impatient (or dumb, or both) enough to pay the scalper price. If people wouldn't do that, the scalpers wouldn't exist. So I guess we really have no one but our neighbors to blame. I do distinguish this from people using bots to place personal orders - that's just playing the game against the scalpers, rather than feeding the trolls. The need for a script or bot to place an order is another symptom of the problem, not the root cause.
I wasn't in dire straits for a card this go around, fortunately, so I'll continue to wait. But god help you if you had a machine down or something and needed a replacement. And thank god this isn't for something that's really needed, like food.
