Windows 12 Is Reportedly Arriving in June 2024 and Will Include Support for AI PCs and ARM Processors

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Windows 12 is reportedly set to arrive this coming summer as an overseas PC manufacturer announces its plan to be the first to invest in AI PCs. Lin Baili, chairman and founder of Quanta, which is a contract "white-box" PC maker in China whose products are often resold under different names, and Acer Chairman and CEO Chen Junsheng both recently attended the Taiwan Medical Technology Exhibition conference where they went on record expressing optimism about the forthcoming AI PC industry. Microsoft's next operating system is said to have been designed with AI PCs in mind and is believed to launch in support of forthcoming PCs featuring AI technology.

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I was kind of excited about Windows 12 (the old skip every-two versions kinda thing), I was really thinking maybe Win12 will be the one I finally upgrade to from Win10, it might be THE good one. But, I am now reserved, considering this huge shift and push into "AI" (which isn't really AI, it's just large language models or machine learning). This worries me, for the direction of Win12 and I can only imagine the intense spyware it will really be. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
Brian_B said:
What is an AI PC
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Probably PC connected to copilot at all times. ☹️
I don't think holding out any hope of skipping versions means much anymore. Win 11 simply built on Win 10. My guess is 12 won't be different, just maybe more 'connected.' Sooner or later, it'll be required. Companies can't seem to shut off the sweet monthly money stream.
 
What new features and abilities is win 12 bringing to the table?
 
They will bingify a bunch probably.
Honestly don't think I'll be mad at this.
My PC has been losing it place at home for a long time anyway.
AI bing is pretty good tbh.
 
Uvilla said:
They will bingify a bunch probably.
Honestly don't think I'll be mad at this.
My PC has been losing it place at home for a long time anyway.
AI bing is pretty good tbh.
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To each their own. If I can't block and/or remove anything and everything AI and/or Cloud in it, I don't want it.

I just want a desktop OS.

I don't want a included software ecosystem, I don't want a Microsoft account, I don't want anyhting subscription based (software or OS) I don't want any integration with any cloud service, I don't even want it to communicate over a network interface unless I explicitly tell it to, and I sure as hell don't ant anything AI.

I'm already already borderline discontinuing use of all Microsoft products as it is based on what they have done with 10 and 11. If they continue down this path, I'll likely just ride them to the EOL date and then wipe the partition, and just be Microsoft free from that point on.
 
Shotglass01 said:
Companies can't seem to shut off the sweet monthly money stream.
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They are not getting as much as a penny from me. Anyone who pays a subscription fee for any software or cloud services is a goddamn fool.

I used to buy and use Office. I used to buy and use Photoshop (though admittedly way back when it was more affordable)

I have just stopped buying their products now that they have moved to a subscription service, and there is pretty much zero chance I ever will again.

So in theory at least, they are getting LESS money from me than they used to. And I will die on this hill.

I want to continue using my desktop PC the way I have always used my desktop PC until the day I die. No automation, no AI, no cloud, no online account. They can take pretty much any "feature" offered after Windows 7 and shove it somewhere the sun don't shine.

My mind will not be changed on this, come hell or high water.
 
Zarathustra said:
To each their own. If I can't block and/or remove anything and everything AI and/or Cloud in it, I don't want it.

I just want a desktop OS.

I don't want a included software ecosystem, I don't want a Microsoft account, I don't want anyhting subscription based (software or OS) I don't want any integration with any cloud service, I don't even want it to communicate over a network interface unless I explicitly tell it to, and I sure as hell don't ant anything AI.

I'm already already borderline discontinuing use of all Microsoft products as it is based on what they have done with 10 and 11. If they continue down this path, I'll likely just ride them to the EOL date and then wipe the partition, and just be Microsoft free from that point on.
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Sounds like you want a Linux build. No I don't mean that offensively it's just patently clear that MS is going to the connected ecosystem for their products going forward. I've bought into it... and find it useful and handy.

BUT if I were developing a crash cart for recovery and security I sure as **** would have Either a locked down MS OS or a flavor of Linux or even Mac OS that was secured. No Domain, Normally kept offline, booted to manually apply security updates when needed sort of thing with prepping with staged recovery information once a quarter or month depending. (Something I'm trying to get approved where I work for our most critical environments to expedite recovery.)
 
Our pcs are turning into mere service portals. Ms is making sure you adopt several of theirs via os. I will not pay for office nor for photoshop, those are dead to me.
I have paid for " ai" services a bit, for images, image enhancement ( vance ai I think, dall e 2) but havent done subscription on those at all, only put some money in the pot to use the service.
I don't know what ms will be doing with bing later, for now things been free.. If that changes I may put some money in that pot if I see usefulness, but no subscription for me, i don't think I would go that far.
 
Zarathustra said:
To each their own. If I can't block and/or remove anything and everything AI and/or Cloud in it, I don't want it.

I just want a desktop OS.

I don't want a included software ecosystem, I don't want a Microsoft account, I don't want anyhting subscription based (software or OS) I don't want any integration with any cloud service, I don't even want it to communicate over a network interface unless I explicitly tell it to, and I sure as hell don't ant anything AI.

I'm already already borderline discontinuing use of all Microsoft products as it is based on what they have done with 10 and 11. If they continue down this path, I'll likely just ride them to the EOL date and then wipe the partition, and just be Microsoft free from that point on.
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Sadly adobe became a multi billion dollar company by going subscription. MS incredibility keeps growing thanks to subscription, its sad, but its reality, people love their monthly crap. I choose subscriptions wisely enough, and things like photoshop and office can shove it. In general I just cant go for it monthlt when its low use. Netflix and Tidal I am unlikely to give up for now cause I use it a lot.
 
I use my office apps all the time for personal use so I keep the sub. Now if work offered the same sub for cheaper because of enterprise connections as a benefit I would take advantage. But 10 bucks a month... 5 computers with full office (sans visio, access, and publisher, and Project if you consider it part of the office suite.) it kind of works out. for me. Especially since each user gets 1tb of cloud storage.
 
I'm not scared. I usually jump into the new Windows with both feet. I even join the Windows Insider program just to test it out.
 
Niner51 said:
I'm not scared. I usually jump into the new Windows with both feet. I even join the Windows Insider program just to test it out.
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Fear has nothing to do with it.

I'm just old enough to know what I like and what I don't like, and I am not going to use something I don't like just because it is new and "cool". I've always despised fads and trends of all kinds.
 
There are only 3 things keeping me using Microsoft.

1) games are just so much easier to manage with windows. I’ve done gaming in Linux and it just wasn’t worth the effort. That last attempt was 2013, but I don’t have any indication it’s dramatically better.

2) excel. I have a half dozen spreadsheets I’ve made of various complexity back ended in vbscript. I’m not aware of an alternative that supports VB, and I’m not interested in the time needed to build them from scratch on something else.

3) outlook. I have email archives going back to 2005. Id prefer not to lose them, and I don’t know of an outlook replacement that runs on the desktop that doesn’t suck. I’m very much NOT interested in migrating everything to Gmail / whatever mega company that is just going to mine my data.
 
Zarathustra said:
Fear has nothing to do with it.

I'm just old enough to know what I like and what I don't like, and I am not going to use something I don't like just because it is new and "cool". I've always despised fads and trends of all kinds.
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I wasn't implying anyone else was scared so my apologies. I'm older as well, but have a different outlook I guess. I don't like subscriptions, but just to try something out hardware/software wise that's new then I'm always up for it, which was the opposite of what I was like years ago.
 
Zarathustra said:
They are not getting as much as a penny from me. Anyone who pays a subscription fee for any software or cloud services is a goddamn fool.

I used to buy and use Office. I used to buy and use Photoshop (though admittedly way back when it was more affordable)

I have just stopped buying their products now that they have moved to a subscription service, and there is pretty much zero chance I ever will again.

So in theory at least, they are getting LESS money from me than they used to. And I will die on this hill.

I want to continue using my desktop PC the way I have always used my desktop PC until the day I die. No automation, no AI, no cloud, no online account. They can take pretty much any "feature" offered after Windows 7 and shove it somewhere the sun don't shine.

My mind will not be changed on this, come hell or high water.
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Wholly agree and tis not the trend we're seeing. It's all sub based now. They're breaking in the kids to expect rentals, not ownership. We'll both die on this hill.
 
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