Horizon Steel Frontiers Is a Cross-Platform MMORPG Project Being Developed by NCSoft and Guerrilla for PC, iOS, and Android

MadMummy76 said:
IDK what sci-fi has to do with it, unless you want to say strong female leads are science fiction :D

This is just a cheapshot used to shut down conversation by progs. "Oh, so you don't like strong female characters?" Implying that the person is a sexist. But it doesn't stand up to even the most basic scrutiny. Does the first game not have a strong female lead, or what? Then how come I liked that, if this is the 'true' reason for my dislike of forbidden west?

Look, if you didn't notice a step down in quality of writing from the first game, that's fine, I'm not telling you how to enjoy or whether you are allowed to enjoy the game, I'm telling you why I didn't like it, that's it.
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Why are you changing the goal posts. You put out the feminist message as its failing now you're back pedaling to bad writing. I bet you have a black friend too right? Lol. Talk about a whoopsie.
 
Peter_Brosdahl said:
This could be going from bad to worse. Not doing a post on this yet as there's not enough to back it but in the meantime, a 3rd game might not be happening and the reason this isn't getting a PS5 release it that Guerrilla is rumored to be making its own MMO instead.

www.kitguru.net

Sony apparently doesn’t want Horizon Steel Frontiers on PlayStation - KitGuru

This week, NCSoft and Sony officially revealed their Horizon MMO project - Horizon Steel Frontiers.
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Hm, I predict a Guerilla MMO to go exactly the same way as the Last of Us MMO by Naughty Dog.
 
Grimlakin said:
Why are you changing the goal posts. You put out the feminist message as its failing now you're back pedaling to bad writing. I bet you have a black friend too right? Lol. Talk about a whoopsie.
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So by your definition if I say the clutch is slipping in my car, then later say it has drivetrain issues, that's backpedaling?! No, it is using a broader definition of the issue.

Why would I even want to backpedal? I 100% stand by the fact that there is radical feminist messaging in HFW, which is at the root cause why the writing is so cringe.

And I go one further: Zero Dawn had some of it too, but it wasn't overt enough to ruin the experience, it was more subtle and wasn't a constant theme of almost every dialogue. But some of it was still very obvious, like the maligning of Olin for trying to protect his family.
 
MadMummy76 said:
So by your definition if I say the clutch is slipping in my car, then later say it has drivetrain issues, that's backpedaling?! No, it is using a broader definition of the issue.

Why would I even want to backpedal? I 100% stand by the fact that there is radical feminist messaging in HFW, which is at the root cause why the writing is so cringe.

And I go one further: Zero Dawn had some of it too, but it wasn't overt enough to ruin the experience, it was more subtle and wasn't a constant theme of almost every dialogue. But some of it was still very obvious, like the maligning of Olin for trying to protect his family.
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I dont see it. But thats on me i suppose. I think of it as a grandfather with a preteen granddaughter who finds that sort of message empowering and encouraging her own self worth. Its like a John Wayne movie for young men. I guess you dont need to like it for the rest of us to appreciate it.
 
Grimlakin said:
I dont see it. But thats on me i suppose. I think of it as a grandfather with a preteen granddaughter who finds that sort of message empowering and encouraging her own self worth. Its like a John Wayne movie for young men.
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Yeah I tried to explain it in terms of sci-fi, but that works too. There's literally one scene that stood out at the end of the second game; everything else was a creative expression.

(a better example would be the new Dragon Age, and I felt even that was pretty well done)
 
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