35% off @ $259.99 Intel Core Ultra 7 Desktop Processor 265K - 20 cores (8 P-cores + 12 E-cores) up to 5.5 GHz

Well apparently some people are suggesting that. Not to mention the 265K system with the superior GPU will be better at everything else including gaming and last much longer without having to buy another CPU later to upgrade, making the AL dead platform argument not much of an agrument.

So spend more money to get a worse GPU, then have to spend more money later to upgrade the CPU to something with more cores or whatever, vs buying the intel system and not have to worry about upgrading anything for a while.
 
So I'll type like a boomer. PROVE TO ME THAT A 5070 AND 9800X3D IS A SUPERIOR GAMING EXPERIENCE VS A 265K AND 5070TI.
Prove that your solution would provide a superior gaming performance.
You said frame times.....so I posted the exact setups i'm discussing and when the frame time argument didn't work out you resorted to posting an totally irrelevant AMD unboxed video.
A gentleman and a scholar. The Intel setup is so far behind that the GPU being a bin slower won't matter.

And since you won't look at reputable benchmarks, I have no interest in considering yours, lol.
 
Prove that your solution would provide a superior gaming performance.

A gentleman and a scholar. The Intel setup is so far behind that the GPU being a bin slower won't matter.

And since you won't look at reputable benchmarks, I have no interest in considering yours, lol.
So you are saying there is no difference in gaming performance between a 5070 and 5070ti, 20-30 sometimes more FPS using a 5070ti vs a 5070, but the 265K will be 20-30fps slower in games effectively making it a worse experience than a 9800X3D and 5070?

A 265K and 5070Ti is NOT a downgrade vs a 9800X3D and a 5070,

Again, those prices are from a store local to me, you are saying that I should spend an $350 to get the 9800X3D and 5070Ti system because it's worth spending that $350, and then I can lose out big on application performance and use cases other than gaming?
 
So you are saying there is no difference in gaming performance between a 5070 and 5070ti, 20-30 sometimes more FPS using a 5070ti vs a 5070, but the 265K will be 20-30fps slower in games effectively making it a worse experience than a 9800X3D and 5070?

A 265K and 5070Ti is NOT a downgrade vs a 9800X3D and a 5070,

Again, those prices are from a store local to me, you are saying that I should spend an $350 to get the 9800X3D and 5070Ti system because it's worth spending that $350, and then I can lose out big on application performance and use cases other than gaming?
That's what I'm saying.
 
Well I'd say you are saying a bunch of **** without being able to back it up, thanks for proving my point all along. Telling people to spend more money than necessary because you can't prove that spending an extra 350$ gives 350$ in tangible performance increases.

Next thing you will probably say is any Arrow lake CPU with a 5090 is going to game worse than a 9800X3D and a 5060 or 5060ti, Is that what you are saying as well?
 
Well I'd say you are saying a bunch of **** without being able to back it up, thanks for proving my point all along. Telling people to spend more money than necessary because you can't prove that spending an extra 350$ gives 350$ in tangible performance increases.
Hey, not my fault you can't watch a credible video and draw conclusions.

Next thing you will probably say is any Arrow lake CPU with a 5090 is going to game worse than a 9800X3D and a 5060 or 5060ti, Is that what you are saying as well?
That I'd like to see tested!

But hey, even if it was, would you look at the evidence?

:ROFLMAO:
 
Does this hurt your feelings? Or is it not fair because it's a 7800X3D?


Currently the 7800X3D is $500 9800X3D is $600 265K is $320

Considering there is less of a performance difference between a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super vs a 5070Ti and 5070, should still go with AMD right?
 
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Well how bout that. The older GPU is holding 1% lows with the newer GPU.

...was there a point you were trying to make?
 
265K 5070Ti CS2 1440P Very high settings


7800X3D RTX 5070 1440P Very high settings


Seems to me the 265K with a better GPU is performing better? No eagerly waiting for your excuse
 
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Well how bout that. The older GPU is holding 1% lows with the newer GPU.

...was there a point you were trying to make?
yes, only a complete moron would recommend spending more money to pair an inferior GPU with a better CPU, vs getting a 265K and 5070Ti, again you are giving up ZERO performance going with a 265K and superior GPU, what's so ****ing hard to understand about that
 
265K 5070Ti CS2 1440P Very high settings


7800X3D RTX 5070 1440P Very high settings


Seems to me the 265K with a better GPU is performing better? No eagerly waiting for your excuse
You're saying you watched 55 minutes of videos in five minutes to provide a comeback after having your last video being turned on its face?
 
You're saying you watched 55 minutes of videos in five minutes to provide a comeback after having your last video being turned on its face?
Did not spend 55 minutes.......and nothing was turned on it's face, so now are you also saying that there is the same performance difference between a 5070 and 5070ti vs a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super?
 
Did not spend 55 minutes.......and nothing was turned on it's face, so now are you also saying that there is the same performance difference between a 5070 and 5070ti vs a 5070Ti and 4070Ti Super?
Hey, I'm not the one trying furiously to rehabilitate the absolute pile of trash that is Arrow Lake on a random computer forum lol
 
Data taken from techpowerup

Relative performance at 1080P (gaming)

5070Ti = 19% faster than 5070

Relative performance at 1440p (gaming)

5070Ti = 23% faster than 5070

Relative performance at 4K (gaming)

5070Ti = 28% faster than 5070

So if what you are saying is correct, going with a 265K would mean that it be

19% 23% and 28% slower than the 9800X3D with a 5070

Except....... The relative performance 1080p (gaming)

9800X3D 14.1% faster than 265K

The relative performance 1440p (gaming)

9800X3D 7.8% faster than 265K

The relative performance at 4K (gaming)

9800X3D is 2.9% faster than the 265K

So the math doesn't math here, a stronger GPU results in better performance with a 265K vs a 9800X3D with a weaker GPU

How does your math add up?
 

 
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