Need a double/2.5 slot cooler. Wonder how long before we start to see GPU-style cooling on the CPU. Kinda makes me long for the old Slot 1 style CPUs370W is exotic cooling territory. I don't think there is a water block that can handle that kind of heat.
There's a lot of surface area on a GPU water block to remove heat from. CPU waterblocks are rather small in comparison.Need a double/2.5 slot cooler. Wonder how long before we start to see GPU-style cooling on the CPU. Kinda makes me long for the old Slot 1 style CPUs
EK, back when they were solvent... were regularly producing various motherboard monoblocks, even selling a few MSI boards with the monoblocks already installed.There's a lot of surface area on a GPU water block to remove heat from. CPU waterblocks are rather small in comparison.
I could see a bigger CPU block, that also covers the VRM's as well, being an option. But since there is no layout standard they would be very expensive. Especially when each mobo manufacturers makes 50 different mobo's.
There's a lot of surface area on a GPU water block to remove heat from. CPU waterblocks are rather small in comparison.
Right. Hence the Slot 1 comment.There's a lot of surface area on a GPU water block to remove heat from. CPU waterblocks are rather small in comparison.
Problem is still the 'hot spot' area and overall die area though, right? And with a slot, you push the memory and PCIe devices 'further away' electrically too, which I'd think would inhibit performance?Right. Hence the Slot 1 comment.
Sockets have their use . But I wonder what the next step is for cooling.Problem is still the 'hot spot' area and overall die area though, right? And with a slot, you push the memory and PCIe devices 'further away' electrically too, which I'd think would inhibit performance?
Die size is different, but not hugely different.Problem is still the 'hot spot' area and overall die area though, right? And with a slot, you push the memory and PCIe devices 'further away' electrically too, which I'd think would inhibit performance?
Except it isn't. Overclocked, Intel's 10980XE and its Xeon W-3475x pulled more than that. The former pulled well past 400w on its own at 4.8GHz. Granted, if you are going to pull that you are pretty much going to have to go to water cooling but you could get close with a good 360 AIO.370W is exotic cooling territory. I don't think there is a water block that can handle that kind of heat.
Direct die, if you're not willing to go sub-ambient (and perhaps even if you are). You can throw all the radiator you want at it, but the IHS is going to act more like an insulator and increasing radiator surface area will see increasingly minimal gains.So a 420 AIO should cut it with some better fans? Seems the case..
Seems the best move is to just not go Intel.Direct die, if you're not willing to go sub-ambient (and perhaps even if you are). You can throw all the radiator you want at it, but the IHS is going to act more like an insulator and increasing radiator surface area will see increasingly minimal gains.
Definitely not this gen, not after those trash reviews.Seems the best move is to just not go Intel.
The problem, since the 109xx days is that the heat spreader and TIM are limiting factors in transferring heat away from the CPU die. It's not an easy problem to solve but your right. Increasing radiator capacity, airflow etc. will only net you so much in the grand scheme of things. Going sub-ambient would be the only real way to deal with that. Not that going that route doesn't create its own issues.Direct die, if you're not willing to go sub-ambient (and perhaps even if you are). You can throw all the radiator you want at it, but the IHS is going to act more like an insulator and increasing radiator surface area will see increasingly minimal gains.