Intel Doesn’t Think the Gaming Market Is Big Enough to Justify a Core CPU with 3D V-Cache: “Comes with Trade-Offs, Certain Disadvantages, or Co...

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Intel appears to have an answer to AMD's 3D V-Cache technology, but it won't be coming to client products, such as Intel Core processors for laptops and desktops, anytime soon, according to new statements shared by Florian Maislinger, Tech Communications Manager at Intel.

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Translation: we have no idea how the hell AMD did this. I have a feeling that the lunar/arrow lake modular design is constrictive to the point that they have no way of adding the 3d cache,

I don't know...the 3d cache certainly benefits photo editing software, video encoding, science-specific workloads, neural engines, etc. These are not gaming scenarios.
 
Yea but intel doesn't want their consumer CPU's to step on their HEDT or server CPU's.

AMD's answer is advanced chiplet design and better interconnects allowing 96+ core server side CPU's.

Got FOMO buy a 16 core desktop that can do all our servers can.

Intel's answer... If you need that drop 40k on a HEDT solution chumps...

One of them is making money. ;)
 
I freely admit, despite how much I really love my 5800X3D and look foward to another 3D Cache processor that it's not the end-all be-all. We can get by w/o but the when a $460 part (7800X3D) can compete and beat in some areas a $589 part (14900K) then someone at Intel needs to be asking themselves what is the best way forward because brand loyalty only goes so far. It only gets worse when throw in temps, TDP, and cooling differences between the two.

Meanwhile the 285K, not the worst and should get better with BIOS/driver updates, at $700 makes even less sense for gamers and it's clear that Intel doesn't have anything for them right now.

I don't have anything against Intel but I sure wish they'd get over their identity crisis because I don't believe they know who they are anymore. Meanwhile I love the 13900HK in my laptop. It's a beast and puts a smile on my face while gaming at 1440p 100-200 Hz.
 
Gamers want the best for gaming. Imagine that. And Intel isn't it. Not saying Intel isn't "good enough", because they are. But if I'm building something that's going to be 95% used for gaming I'm going with the best option for gaming. Not something that's OK at gaming and obliterates the competition at .ZIP'ing files and transcoding video. I don't care if it takes an extra 5 seconds to zip a file.
 
<snark>
Q. So the V-Cache trade-offs are worse than the trade-off from ARL?
..........
<sound of crickets>
..........
A. Well you see...

</snark>
(Yes I know its not that simple an answer)
 
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