ULTRARAM, a Technology That Aims to Bridge the Gap Between DRAM and NAND, Makes Another Step to Volume Production

If this catches wind... just expect someone like Samsung or TSMC to buy them... patent the ever loving crap out of it. Then just keep making DDR for a while, until they decide the cost to produce is worth it to lead the market. Or DDR ram just blows it so far out of the water as it be a non factor.

I mean if they can make it cheap and dense enough it might be nice to have a non volatile storage solution for long term backups...

Or if it's fast enough we can make all the people who never understood the difference between ram and storage right and have them be the same thing.

A sliding scale... do you need storage, or ram... just get a 8 TB supermem system and you'll have all of both!

I will say right now this product feels very much like snake water.
 
Yep this does seem like a too good to be true kind of thing and even if it isn't, I'm not sure how they'll be able to break through to sell it.
 
I guess we hear about all kinds of new RAM types that never really took off, innovation doesn't always mean it will catch on.

Fill me in though, what is the intended use of this, replace flash? replace DRAM? or sit in-between?
 
Brent_Justice said:
I guess we hear about all kinds of new RAM types that never really took off, innovation doesn't always mean it will catch on.

Fill me in though, what is the intended use of this, replace flash? replace DRAM? or sit in-between?
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After reading the article... It's more like.

We got something!

What's it do?

It's fast... ummm like RAM!

is it RAM fast?

Uhhh... maybe!!

Ok so it replaces ram?

It could... but we think it will hold data for a THOUSAND years!

Yea.. like the crystal storage technology they were talking about before?

Well we do grow crystals for this!

Oh so it's the crystal storage tech?

We think it may work like that...

What do you mean?

So we think it's storage and ram..

Sounds amazing!

Sure... I mean yea it is... Can we have some money?

If it's so great don't you have a ton of private equity investors?

Well.... no?

Oh... ok sure have some government money... we have to fund moonshots too.
 
Prediction: RAMBUS purchases the company, proceeds to sue all the other DRAMURAI for IP infringement related to these patents until licenses are sold.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I guess we hear about all kinds of new RAM types that never really took off, innovation doesn't always mean it will catch on.
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so many .... so so many.....

Brent_Justice said:
Fill me in though, what is the intended use of this, replace flash? replace DRAM? or sit in-between?
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This will depend on final characteristic and price.
Im guessing storage side not DRAM side.
Unless cost is really good, Im guessing local accelerators or some front end for some storage systems.
 
If Optane's now-dead future was any indicator, it seems like what they're going to wind up with is persistent RAM that's not as fast as actual DRAM. Which would probably be the worst point about it. And yes, cost is usually an issue for anything that's new and novel due to economies of scale.
 
DrMrLordX said:
Honestly it sounds like Intel Optane.
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This is exactly what I was thinking when I was reading it.

I am sad that Intels PMem Optane memory is no more as I could really use it for one of my setups. Maybe this will fill in the void.

I didn't read the whole thing, but hopefully this will use the existing DIMM slots for memory just like PMem does for more direct access to the CPU. I need this.
 
I think the only reason the others (Intel Optane) failed was due to costs. Intel couldn't get the prices down on those devices and they cost a fortune when you could get near identical performance with far cheaper hardware else where.

and by near identical I mean something that the users (for personal/desktop/workstation) couldn't really notice.

NVME really took the wind out of the sails of the Intel Optane product lineup.

If they could get the costs under control that for comparable sized products (in terms of storage capacity) for this technology in same or similar storage capacities of NVME and other storage devices then they'd probably have a lot more success.

I've been trying to find some Intel Optane PMem modules in 256GB sizes for one of my servers for a few months now. I've ordered from three different eBay sellers already. One wouldn't even sell it to me as they claimed my server didn't support it. The other two cancelled the orders because they didn't actually have any to sell me.
 
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