Valve Could Ditch Using a Custom Processor for Steam Deck 2 in Favor of One That Might Outperform the PlayStation 6/Xbox Project Helix

[Peter_Brosdahl]

Does anyone here have an use case for this dense of a compute solution? I'd love to hear it.

Can it play Crisis? Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[Marees]

Can it play Crisis? Sorry, couldn't resist.

with 384 cpu cores, who needs a GPU

reminds me of Intel's embree DX11 based RT used in the game World of Tanks !!!

 

[igor_kavinski]

AVX512 was conceived to make faster rendering possible on CPUs. Too bad they pivoted to business use cases afterwards and fragmented the hell out of it.

 

[Grimlakin]

with 384 cpu cores, who needs a GPU

reminds me of Intel's embree DX11 based RT used in the game World of Tanks !!!

I mean it could probably do software rendering like back in the day using windows 2000 to play openGL titles using software rendering.

 

[Skillz]

Does anyone here have an use case for this dense of a compute solution? I'd love to hear it.

Yes, everyone on The FPS Review BOINC team. A few of us have high core count Genoa CPUs. We're currently in a Primegrid challenge making these CPUs sweat.

I have 3x 96-core Genoa's myself. As well as 4 64-core EPYC Rome setups and a 32-core EPYC Rome setup. Plus some other CPUs in the competition at the moment.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I mean it could probably do software rendering like back in the day using windows 2000 to play openGL titles using software rendering.

We'll never really know what's truly possible thanks to nvidia pushing their path tracing tech. The original Larrabee project was based on Pentium cores (yes, modified 586 cores!) and ran this:

This post explains what Intel did wrong with their effort and failed to generate excitement for Larrabee: https://jackpal.github.io/2009/09/23/IDF_2009_Larrabee_demo.html

 

[DrezKill]

This post explains what Intel did wrong with their effort and failed to generate excitement for Larrabee: https://jackpal.github.io/2009/09/23/IDF_2009_Larrabee_demo.html

Somewhat related:

https://www.techspot.com/article/2125-intel-last-graphics-card/

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-larrabee-gpu-sold

 

[Marees]

there is leak of a FF6 socket & Gainsborough APU

FF series is AMD's tablet / mobile low powered socket

previous Van Gogh (OG steam deck) & Aerith (revision of steam deck) were on FF sockets

apparently Valve has playfully interpreted FF as Final Fantasy

Aerith Gainsborough is a character from Final Fantasy

expect FF6 socket to be tiny & in range of 5 watts to 15 watts

potentially 96 bit or 192 bit lpddr6 if it releases 2028

CPU is likely zen 6. maybe 4x zen 6c
GPU speculated to be RDNA 4m. maybe 12 CU ( Current steam deck is 8x RDNA 2 CU )

Discussion - Steam Deck 2 handheld ?

AMD recently revealed FSR 4 & touted power savings for handheld gaming. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-plans-for-fsr4-to-be-fully-ai-based-designed-to-improve-quality-and-maximize-power-efficiency Zen 5 reviews mentioned a generational advance in power modes (especially...

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[Brian_B]

expect FF6 socket to be tiny & in range of 5 watts to 15 watts

Even though FF6 was the best, everyone will go ape over FF7, and FF7 remake, and FF7 Crisis Core and all the inevitable tie-ins and cross-overs.