Probably Bound to Happen: Increased Power Draw for DLSS 5 Reportedly Claims Its First Victim After a User Finds an RTX 5090 with a Melted Power Ada...

My hard hot E-Peen says I am holding it right... the problem is my connector is going soft in the heat and just can't stay solid. I'm thinking some kind of desensitizing (cooling) coating needs to be used so my connector can stay firm longer and really drive home the pleasure... of gaming.
 
igor_kavinski said:
www.tweaktown.com

Modders swap RTX 5090's 16-pin connector for 8-pins and run it at 900W without melting

The modified card ran at loads exceeding 120A and clocks around 3,400MHz for over an hour, while cable temperatures stayed below 35 degrees.
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There's hope. Upto 900W without any melting concerns but say bye bye to warranty if you do this to your $5K GPU.
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Posted on that one here.

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Modders Retrofit a GeForce RTX 5090 with Three 8-Pin Connectors and Test with over 900W of Power to Reach 3.4 GHz

Those clever folks over at Teclab are at it again, and this time around they’ve not only ditched the infamous 16-pin connector but replaced it with 3x 8-pin connectors. The modders from Brazil took a Galax GeForce RTX 5090D HOF OC LAB XOC graphics card and retrofitted it with a setup commonly...
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Just curious, has anyone heard of one melting on a card with a custom loop? I don't remember ever seeing pics of one.
 
Peter_Brosdahl said:
Just curious, has anyone heard of one melting on a card with a custom loop? I don't remember ever seeing pics of one.
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Well seeing as how installing a water block almost surely voids a warranty. I'd be willing to bet any such cards were reverted to the stock cooling solution for pics.
 
Peter_Brosdahl said:
Just curious, has anyone heard of one melting on a card with a custom loop? I don't remember ever seeing pics of one.
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I'm curious whether the melting ever happened on lower tier cards, as in something that is not a 3090, 4090 or 5090.
 
Uncapped frame rates are a bane when bad drivers or driver calls let parts run in a race condition ahead of other parts in the channel.

Days or thunder reference.. you hit 10000fps.. you basically money shifted your video card.
 
Grimlakin said:
Uncapped frame rates are a bane when bad drivers or driver calls let parts run in a race condition ahead of other parts in the channel.

Days or thunder reference.. you hit 10000fps.. you basically money shifted your video card.
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There’s been a frame cap available in the driver for years now.

I guess people may not know it’s there but.. mind blowing something with pixel graphics could even get the fans to turn on on something like a 5090
 
Brian_B said:
There’s been a frame cap available in the driver for years now.

I guess people may not know it’s there but.. mind blowing something with pixel graphics could even get the fans to turn on on something like a 5090
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I mean fair. It's not about the data on the screen... it's about the cycles being burned to do the work. Bad code or bad hardware you be the judge but you should not be cooking your video cards even with a simple image could even be static being drawn in an specific way at out of control frame rates will destroy something if EVERY piece in the path isn't up to snuff.

This right here might help as well:

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Grimlakin said:
I mean fair. It's not about the data on the screen... it's about the cycles being burned to do the work. Bad code or bad hardware you be the judge but you should not be cooking your video cards even with a simple image could even be static being drawn in an specific way at out of control frame rates will destroy something if EVERY piece in the path isn't up to snuff.

This right here might help as well:

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I mean, I thought we fixed the powervirus thing back when Furmark was destroying GPUs.

This is what I was thinking of, but yeah, a power limit thing you would think would work too

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Personally I think the biggest problem is that NVIDIA's power profiles are inherently self-destructive for these cards and made just so folks can brag about GPU speeds and it only gets worse when folks use something like DLSS 5 which w/o proper configuration is going to hammer the card and drive maximum power draw.

I know folks get sick of car analogies when it comes to tech hardware but this reminds me a something an old mentor always stated when it came to modifying a vehicle: Never make a change if the vehicle isn't already performing to spec and capable of doing more without incuring damage because if it can't already, something is bound to give. There's plenty of stock engines that are already doing close to their max design and pushing them more will likely result in damage.

When it comes to 5080s and 5090s, especially 5090s, both are often doing more than they should out of the box and pushing further without taking the appropriate measures is very likely going to end badly. It's like throwing a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous on an engine that's already overheating and not expecting something bad to happen.

I swear, I feel like NVIDIA should've included a disclaimer that said, hey were giving you these things in a state in which they can literally have a meltdown but here are some tips to avoid that. This is nothing like the old days where performance was left on the table for those willing to look into unlock, some of these things are pretty much already near-redlining out of the box.
 
Grimlakin said:
I have applied the universal frame limit to match my refresh rate, and a 90% power limiter to be safe.
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I went with 70% power limit and an undervolt that averages around 0.895V which allows my Zotac TUF hit 2400-2650 MHz, and a little lower, usually around 2400-2525 MHz, for my MSI 5090, (I'm pulling those from memory so not exact but in the right area) but both have VRAM at 14.5 GHz (29). There's a pretty good video on YT about this from around a year or so ago. This normally keeps power at 400-425W max, no matter what but additional system tuning ends up bringing it down to anywhere between 250W-350W when using max RT effects and DLSS 5 and enables cooling profiles to run around 70% or less fan speeds while keeping them 55-65c under load and this in the Lian Li mATX cases that I've posted about.

It's sort of annoying how much tuning can be involved with 5090s but the end results are well worth it but all the more reason I believe that NV really screwed up with its stock profiles. The same lack of optimization is evident with the cards w/ 2 power connectors, hitting above 3 GHz yet barely yield more than a few percentage points of performance while drawing more than double the power. This die simply does not need 500+ watts of power to do its thing.
 
Brian_B said:
I mean, I thought we fixed the powervirus thing back when Furmark was destroying GPUs.

This is what I was thinking of, but yeah, a power limit thing you would think would work too

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Yep, whether here, or in NV CP, or optiscaler, I set FPS limits all the time now. I do power limiting here, I believe under the system tab but also in MSI AB where I also have a custom power curve set.
 
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