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What is life like with an Ryzen CPU?

Grimlakin

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This is a question you may have if you are somewhat new to the IT world and build it yourself, or more so if you remember back in the day when there were Pentium, Athalon, Cyrix, 486, Celeron, and Itanium cpu's all in the market at the same time.

Chances were if your software was written and compiled for the instruction sets on CPU 1 it my not work on CPU 2. OR... you would see strange performance or less system stability with the different vendor CPU.

I will say this as we all know in gaming the raw compatibility from the Intel CPU's to the Ryzen or Threadripper line of CPU's is not 100% painless.. well it wasn't.

What I mean is that the game makers that wrote their code, and the developers that made the CPU's and the drivers for them have realized the pain points that have been ran into... and by and large fixed them.

I have had an odd hangup with 7 days to die... but that's an alpha program and I would expect that. I can't recall if I had the same problems on my Intel CPU or not so I can't count that against AMD.

Another game I logged some real hours on was Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Again I never had an issue with it. I did have a few times the game locked up or crashed during normal operation... well normal. I MAY have been running a cheat from CheatHappens at the same time. So again I can not attribute the one off lockups to AMD.

FFXIV I've been logging some hours in as well with the new build.. and it's been rock solid, even using 3rd party applications with the game.. (It's against the Terms of Service so I don't say do this.) and it's been rock solid.

Some other programs I've been running.
MS Office 365 suite: Rock solid
Discord: Rock Solid
Origins: Rock solid
Uplay: Rock Solid
Icue: Rock Solid
Blizzards launcher: Rock solid
Steam: Rock Solid
Twitch: Rock Solid
GOG: Rock Solid
EPIC Games store: Rock Solid
Steel Series Engine: Rock Solid
Samsung Magician: Rock Solid
Nvidia Control panel and Experience: Rock Solid
The Crew 2: Rock Solid
Destiny 2: Rock solid (This was fixed before I made the jump to Ryzen)
Borderlands 3: Rock Solid

....

I think you get the idea. I had zero real pain when changing over to the new build. Yes I wiped my drive and started over with a fresh OS install and had your normal configuration hoops with Windows 10. Beyond that it's been... well... Rock Solid.

That first boot after a bios update or new install... that takes an VERY long time and I ended up power cycling to get past it because I'm impatient.

That would be my biggest pain point.

So I just wanted to share that today with every program I've tried it has been amazing and a great experience and no noticeable issues.
 

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The days of massive software compatibility problems like we saw with older AMD and Cyrix CPU's in the i386-Pentium eras are a thing of the past. Once in awhile you get a weird one like the Destiny 2 issue, but that's on Destiny 2's code rather than an AMD issue. Last time I ran AMD in my personal machine, it was a Threadripper 2920X. It was a fantastic processor outside of gaming. It was simply a weakness of that CPU which was the problem. Too much latency going across CCX complexes and that sort of thing.
 

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The days of massive software compatibility problems like we saw with older AMD and Cyrix CPU's in the i386-Pentium eras are a thing of the past. Once in awhile you get a weird one like the Destiny 2 issue, but that's on Destiny 2's code rather than an AMD issue. Last time I ran AMD in my personal machine, it was a Threadripper 2920X. It was a fantastic processor outside of gaming. It was simply a weakness of that CPU which was the problem. Too much latency going across CCX complexes and that sort of thing.
So.. interesting thing here that I was going to ask you about. What does the default gaming mode profile do on the 2920? I just tried it on my 1950x to diagnose some bf5 things and it cut down to 8 cores instead of 16 and seemed to smooth out the lag spikes I was getting...
 

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Even on the Ryzen it cuts out a CCX and drops you down to 6 core in the 'gaming' profile... but for me it hasn't made a difference and I'm not going to loose half my cores for it.
 

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So.. interesting thing here that I was going to ask you about. What does the default gaming mode profile do on the 2920? I just tried it on my 1950x to diagnose some bf5 things and it cut down to 8 cores instead of 16 and seemed to smooth out the lag spikes I was getting...
Gaming mode on any of the CPU's that have it cuts down the number of active CCX complexes to reduce cross CCX latency penalties which are generally the biggest problem with Ryzen's performance in games. There are some other issues on the Threadripper side. CPU's like the 2990WX compound those issues with their NUMA style memory architecture. All first and second generation Threadripper CPU's benefit from game mode for this reason.
 

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Got a 2600x for my friends rig (he was on Haswell i5 and couldnt play Modern Warfare) and its been a night and day improvement. Honestly Ryzen is great and there is no reason to be scared of AMD.
 

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I was an early adopter of Ryzen, I built my computer in March of 2017 -- My 1700X CPU has been fantastic. I've never once experienced any weird issues or any crashes. I came from a Phenom II and the difference of course is night and day. The first thing I noticed performance wise that really was awesome was the ability to stream a game with any noticeable performance difference. Overall I'm very happy and I am very tempted to upgrade to a 3700X.
 

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Besides the Beta Tester period of Zen2, it's been indistinguishable from a simply much faster Haswell system.


fucking around with stupid shit with PCs not included
 

Grimlakin

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What is that a picture of and is your haswell system the faster system?
 

Bloax

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It's indistinguishable from being a much faster Haswell system - ergo; it suffers from no "bizarreties", simply goes faster.

And that's a picture of me (not yet zip-tie'ing, but that did happen) putting a fan over my memory sticks because they run a little hot at 1.57v

Between the rather extensive RAM overclock, and Zen2 just being a monster CPU architecture - it runs circles around my old Haswell. :)


somehow i didn't comment on my Morpheus II'd 5700 XT silly me
Yeah don't do that kids, it was just something I wanted to try for shits and giggles.
 
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